I use fl from my first computer I doesn't know why i am tired of it Maybe because 5 years ago and no changes
I think i'm gonna use sonar.I am just a little afraid cose i'm not a technician but realy instinctive musician

If someone know the dilem (...)HELP

 

May you be more specific?
What you do with the DAW? or what you did and want you want to do?
Your setup?

FL Studio and Sonar are to very different DAWs. FL Studio comes from a tracker background where Sonar come from a linear sequencing background.
Both can do now what the other can do but not as well. Tracker sequencing is far and away easier in FL Studio then in Sonar. Linear sequencing is far and way easier in Sonar then in FL Studio.

Some tutorials for Sonar X2:

http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X2&Lang=EN&Req=Tutorial1.1.html
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrCRfwSEQuTAEZR7K1C7rPyrRLSALzyH5
http://www.groove3.com/str/sonar-x2-explained.html
http://streamworksaudio.com/products/swaCompleteSonarX2

You can find some of them on audioz or googling around!!!

I use Ableton Live!!!But i tried both,just to see!!

 

Forget Sonar.The learning curve will drive you mad.Please understand that it's very very good for what it does but I am pretty sure you have more fun and be more productive with something like Ableton live or Studio One.

 

FL Studio man, the only thing i regret since i'm on mac

 

Get Ableton Live and feel free, without boundaries. Ableton Live is future! Its so easy and it is so fun. You will thank me. No matter which type of music.

look here:

http://vimeo.com/25004046

or here

and so on..


http://vimeo.com/12929178



Greets

 

Need more info. If you do a lot of midi, especially orchestral based work, Studio One or Sonar X2 would be overall better choices than FL Studio or Ableton (which are both awesome for other uses).

Between the two, I recently switched to Studio One and love it. I miss a few features from Sonar, but Studio One's workflow truly is a huge improvement. Check out my post history, I'm no Studio One fanboy and used to highly prefer Sonar, but things such as needing to take 3-4 steps just to get multi outputs out of Kontakt really add up in terms of time, even with a template.

" i'm not a technician but realy instinctive musician" Tells me that you really would benefit from something with a more intuitive workflow, like Studio One, FL Studio, or Ableton. Highly recommend staying away from Sonar and Cubase in your case (again, both are awesome for other users/situations).

 

Thanx to be so quick
In fact i do compo not dj thing .I had saw but never realy work with linear system

FL it's right.But i'm also gonna try cakewalk product "for fun" I realy want to know the difference
between tracker and linear .I maybe go next to something just made for me.if it make me mad fl is always here
LINEAR i doesn't have think of this when i put this question.

ArticStorm:When i had tried Studio One it bug's at the start...Too many plugs to read and "BUG"

And i suppose ableton is a tracker system NO!?

 

allshallfade:
"get away from cubase or sonar"
I think i had work too long on fl and the curiosity, the reputations of
cubase and sonar
I understand no need to change

 

Where comes this superstition that you can't do orchestral music with Ableton.

Look here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THlJOgbFi4E


and here


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15X9acmh1Ng

 

You can even edit and sequence videos with it.

Look here




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STMjc1dF764


or here



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKd6rVLUrwI

 

"And i suppose ableton is a tracker system NO!?"

Ableton has two different views:session view and arrangement view!The Arrangement view follows the linear recording paradigm of most DAWs, but has a few differences.

Compare link.
http://loopcommunity.com/blog/2012/06/session-view-vs-arrangement-view/



Ableton LIVE SOS Tutorials, Techniques & Workshops.

http://www.soundonsound.com/articles/AbletonLive.php

Ableton 8 manual download link:

https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ableton%20live%209%20manual%20pdf&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CDcQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdownloads.ableton.com%2Fmanuals%2F80%2Fableton_live_8_manual_en.pdf&ei=5URHUZ28I8364QTX4oGIDw&usg=AFQjCNGRSMn9zMQ9q0x2qKd2YBin1yPYdA&bvm=bv.43828540,d.ZWU

 

Re: Alpha One-- "Superstition" ... Please do not put words in my mouth. I never said that you can't do orchestral music in Ableton (Daniel James of Hybrid Two did it for quite some time and might still be using it), just that other programs are a better option for it overall. Features such as VST Expression and overall better film scoring options in Cubase, VST 3 capability in Cubase and Studio One(for use with Vienna Ensemble Pro when hosting a large amount of resource intensive orchestral samples at once, which -none- of your example videos used) and so on make them much more comprehensive options for orchestral and film score writing. Much more options in terms of midi editing overall in Cubase, Sonar, and Studio One as well.

Can orchestral music/film scoring be done with Ableton? Absolutely! Although more (sometimes much more in terms of film scoring and timing hits) slowly and inefficiently. If orchestral music is your main priority, should you look at Ableton above/before other options? Probably not. Again, Ableton is fantastic in other areas but I wouldn't call it the best for that (admittedly smaller) portion of the market.

Not interested in starting a DAW war here though as every DAW mentioned in this thread is capable of incredibly impressive music. I just had to clear up the above misquote.

 

THX
I'm gonna think about all.The dl of SONAR is nearly ending
I will be back for my impressions when i catch more exp on it

 

@allshallfade


Didn't want to sound imposing. I worked with FL, Cubase, Sonar, Sequoia, Presonus Studio1,2, and also Protools 10 and i am still working with them for educational purposes.

But i dont see any need of making music with them. MAybe i havent reached any limits of the mentioned DAWs to say a definitiv conclusion. But what i have seen so far is, that AL has a damn fast workflow, so you can concentrate more in music making then learning 1000 different keycommands.
These are my experiences. That doesn't mean that i am an abolute reference for everybody. But i can recommend AL for all newbies or DAW changers.

P.S.:

And don't let you fool by shiny GUI of some DAWs.


Greets

 

No worries. Just didn't like the implication that I said Ableton is incapable orchestral work.

In essence, we agree with each other. More people should know that Ableton is capable of doing such things and really is a fast and fun daw to learn. Like you, I'd recommend either Ableton or Studio One to a newbie simply because their workflow isn't as convoluted as Cubase and Sonar can be.

It's just when you get to the intricate/advanced functions with midi, orchestral writing, and film scoring that you might want to look elsewhere. And just in case I sound condescending, when I say "advanced", I don't mean more intelligent writing or better music, just different writing scenarios, such as when you have 14 gigs + of orchestral samples loaded at once or you have to time a midi sequence to many tempo changes (both gradual, sudden, and within a bar) such as in your typical "car chase" scene. Obviously, not a high percentage of people work in that environment.

Edit: And one thing I wish is that Studio One -did- have a shiny GUI! The plain black/greyish UI is boring after working with Ableton and Sonar!

 

@allshadefade:


Ok then bro. Lets make music ;)

 

Wow this is interesting, i've used sonar-cakewalk since Dos, who said it's difficult? just try it and you'll marvel at what you can do with it.

 

I make music with fl studio from version 3 to 10.
I've just bought the access virus and it has awakened me.
The atomizer only works with audio cable connection by bad routing in fl studio.
I switched to ableton because I'm not teaching miracle and did not feel in hours studying.
Because I know fl studio reasonably now, I know what I'm looking for.

YOUTUBE IS THE THING!

I think the routing option in ableton are easy and unlimited.
Fl studio includes a mixer 99 channels that hinders me. With ableton not noticed that I'm too short channels and I can continue routing effects.
I miss now and then the piano roll in fl studio but I'll get used to it.
I regret that I have not previously ableton started now I have bought more hardware.
I say try ABLETON!

 

Lot of votes for ableton The one daw who make me a strong adversion Don't know why
Surely no reason

For put me in the right way i forgot to tell what my work
So i post this for who want tell me...Cose it's real i wanna change my daw To discover another horizons

http://audiosex.pro/index.php?/topic/6342-my-music/

Please INDULGENCE i'm not so sure of my talents