Everyone able to make music = saturated dying industry?

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  1. Jake Jlinngall

    Jake Jlinngall Kapellmeister

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    It's getting harder and harder to break as the flood just keeps growing.

    Soon only those fortunate enough to hop on the wealthiest ships somehow, someway will be able to ride the flood to the promise land.

    Even if you are unlike the rest how do you let the world know? To many people are in the water saying the same exact thing as you, at the same time....as they can't hear you.

    I guess we will have to always pick our poison.
     
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  3. VisionSierra

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    Kinda like the Pron industry. It's really difficult to be "noticed" or "accepted" in any industry now. Everything is extremely saturated. Everybody is in it for the attention fame and money. People are attention whores. Anybody that wants industry "fame" isn't truly in it for the love of music anymore. When attention fame and money is involved that's all people want now.
     
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    Don't worry the industry is not gonna die, because it's not supposed to.

    The real question is, do you want to be a part of it as it is right now? Are you willing to take risks and try to take it into a new direction?
    Personally i think it's better to take music production as a personal fulfillment thing and leave the money making to other tasks. If that personal fulfillment depends on lots of people hearing your music well...i'm not saying it's impossible but....good luck.
     
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  5. No Doz

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    an oversaturated marketplace is an excellent trade off when you consider the high quality / affordable music tools and tech that we all have available to us now. it's 100% preferable to the old model where access to all of this stuff was gatekept by industry tastemakers with a profit motive. the democratization of music production is a beautiful thing and i full believe this is the most exciting time to be making music

    just focus on the things you can control:

    - craft art that you enjoy and find fulfillment in
    - do quality work and make an active effort towards progression
    - make informed creative / business decisions
    - surround yourself with people that you admire

    allow the rest to follow
     
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  6. Voekit

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    If you can't make money from the audience, make money from the musicians.
     
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    That's a secret
     
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    Do you really need to be known by all the world? This is a mistake. An illusion. You cannot achieve this in any way. There wasn't and isn't a musician known by all the world. Create your audience and work for them. It's a realistic goal.
     
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    Art is art. it's not a living, it is living
    Depends on how you consider yourself rewarded. Some people are good at art and some people are good at business and some are good at artistic business, they're not mutually exclusive. Find a Niche and stick to it doggedly and don't be swayed for 100000 hours.
    Do a gig be that person on stage in the room FFS.
    Pay your dues. Playing original music live is the most fun you can have with your pants on
    Those that do it for fame and money, don't actually do it at all.
     
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  10. Ed Jachimowicz

    Ed Jachimowicz Producer

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    "Everyone able to make music = saturated dying industry?"

    Your assumption is completely false i.m.o.
    First of all since you imply that everybody making music is or wants to be a part of the music industry.
    And why would it be true that even with modern technology everybody is able to make music?
    Do you think that placing a few notes in a DAW is music?
    Could you please describe what music is?

    I don't understand why you post your question/statement
    It only shows to me that you (for whatever reason) are not able to find your spot in what you call the music industry (yet).
    You can't blame the rest of the world who are trying the same for that, to be honest.

    PS. The way to get noticed in your preferred industry is not to complain about it in a forum like this but start locally. Find like-minded people in your area. One thing will lead to another and if it's meant to be: maybe success (but then again what is success?)
     
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  11. BEAT16

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    How was that before before the internet was there?

    Where were you able to exchange ideas as a musician?
    Where did you get your information from?
    Where did you buy your equipment?
    How much radio and tv stations did you watch over music?
    Could you download something?

    Actually, everything is better today with the Internet than without the Internet.
    Self-experiment: Turn off the internet for 2 days and see what is wrong with you.
    Expensive hardware became a software synthesizer - see Arturia.

    You no longer need to buy music magazines, saving money and paper. Write a letter by hand
    or typewriter and then to the mailbox, no - just enter the email address,
    click and seconds later the electronic mail is on the other end of the world.

    We have collected so much data and knowledge over millennia that
    only EDP (electronic data processing) can organize everything.

    By the way, this text was translated from my language with a translator into another language,
    so I can communicate and get to know people from other countries or exchange ideas.
     
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  12. Ad Heesive

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    Apparently it was a bit less easy to get music education before the Internet arrived.:winker:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQfwW-oeh80
     
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    Trying to gatekeep? younger people able to make better music than you and be more successful? The music industry is going nowhere but you did.
     
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    ive heard some right shit being produced! & tone deaf singers/djs who think they are famous over night! just because they have a laptop!
     
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    They aren't real musicians either. They haven't learned an instrument either. In short, most of them are stupid. What is important is his picture on the Internet - it is just a self-representation of yourself. This is all about likes and self-reflection. In 20 years it will be sorted out automatically and put in the waste bin. Have you ever seen these guys read a book?
     
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    Yeah bro industry completely saturated, no way to make money anymore. Just get a normal job. Fuck music. You're probably making shitty music anyway.
     
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    I’d rather have everyone being able to make music, or create any artistic expression for that matter, rather than keep it to a select group and out of reach from the general public to become stagnant and die, but that’s just me.
     
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  18. Pipotron3000

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    If you go the same way than others, it is a crowned market for sure.

    Each month, a new "amazing artist" is born.
    But HOW LONG they last ?
    A month ... replaced by another dumb clone.

    Just don't care and do your own way.
    And avoid those lame capitalists that will cream you to the bones.

    Side note : industry is capitalism
    Capitalism is dying ... so "industry" is dying
    I dont give a f*ck
     
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  19. stopped

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    there are 362000 disco releases on discogs. shit's always been oversaturated and the odds have always been impossible
     
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    Internet and its social media outgrowth has basically turned much of the world into glorified panhandlers panhandling off each other.
    Guess others would view it as finding one's market niche if you can make money whispering into a mic or taking selfies of your big fat overinflated ass, etc, etc. :)
     
  21. BEAT16

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    Exactly @stopped, there are still people who frustrated trying to put their music there all day ..
    A constant battle for likes and positions - that's how you can waste your life time.

    A good band that can do something gives live concerts - then applies to some labels or is discovered because a music editor
    or label boss has found it to be "good to very good". Then comes the record deal and a tour and television appearances.
     
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