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  1. mild pump milk

    mild pump milk Russian Milk Drunkard

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    Before reading: ONLY FOR NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS.

    Hey guys. As you know English is not my native language, so I still have some questions for correction. It's not for fun, but mostly for business, future releases, special task etc.
    So. I started this thread only for my needs to get to know what I am interested in and what I wasn't able to find by simple googling. If I have a question, I will go back to this personal thread to ask you, my friends and colleagues!
    British English speakers are first of all, of course, it is the origin of other English.
    American English speakers are secondary, but still are very welcome.
    Other Europeans with English as native, secondary language, Australian are at the third place, but still are welcome.
    Thanks.

    Question first.
    (Crab, bug) crawls TO or FOR somebody?
    Or creeps?
     
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    Hi, @mild pump milk.
    American English speaker here. (Also southern so there's that). I'd say normal usage would be TO. Unless the crabs intent was to attack the somebody, then it'd likely be FOR.
     
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    mild pump milk Russian Milk Drunkard

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    Oh thanks, but I need a correct answer about thrilling/unpleasant movement to a person who is afraid of crab,bug,or other insect without wings coming.
    so, crawling or creeping, to or for him? So, is it correct to say: bugs will crawl for him? Like they will 'come for' me?
    And bugs crawl , not creep?
     
  5. odelay

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    You can say crabs walk towards somebody - Problem solved. :rofl:
    (PS - I'm not a native speaker. I'm Spanish, but I have a degree in English Language and Literature and I have worked as a teacher of English as a second language since 1998.
     
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    It is for track title, want to give a proper title. Only consider "they will crawl ... somebody".
    As digitaldragon said - TO somebody. Probably this is correct.
     
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    You could say 'the crab crept eerily towards me' (or you could substitute 'me' for a person's name) but @odelay is perfectly correct :)
     
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    Good question. I'm probably in fifth or sixth place but i'd personally say: towards
    Maybe someone knows a better forum for asking this kind of questions?
     
  9. mozee

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    It depends on how you intend it.

    As the @digitaldragon said, if the crab is just happening to be moving in the direction of say Igor Poopooznychk, or if Mr. Poopooznychk called the crab and now it is going to him -->
    The Crab crawls to (or toward) Igor Poopooznychk

    If the crab is a scary crab, and it is coming to do some bad things to our friend Igor. Or if Mr. Poopooznychk owes it some money and has been hiding so as not to pay it, or if you want to make it scary (you might need more context)
    The Crab crawls for Igor Poopooznychk.

    It is coming to get him - with intent.

    BTW I made up the name Poopooznychk it is a fictional name _
     
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    The bug/crab/insect moves towards (the person/victim/john/fred/nancy/whoever).
    If you wish to add menace, the best way is to throw in a descriptive adjective such as:
    The (bug/crab/insect/whatever) moves menacingly/frighteningly/purposefully towards (the person/victim/john/fred/nancy/whoever).
    now here's the complicating (and lots would say the fun) stuff about the english language.
    :woot::cool:
    It's perfectly ok to say "for", but you would have to change the structure a little and it could depend on the context too.
    such as:
    The Bug/crab/insect makes for the victim/john/nancy/whoever.
    and, again, using adjectives to make it scary or scarier:
    The Bug/crab/insect makes menacingly/frighteningly/purposefully for the victim/john/nancy/whoever.
    :(:suicide:
    but, then again, you could even say, if the bug thing is moving sideways, that it "crabs toward". :drummer:
    But only if it is NOT actually a crab, :wtf: because crabs move sideways anyway, so it would be taken as self evident that a crab "crabs" toward someone, so you would simply say one of the "moves towards" or "makes for" thangs.
    See, I told you it's fun! :deep_facepalm:

    have fun matey. :mad:

    EDIT:
    you could also say "crawls towards" instead of "moves towards", but "crawls for" instead of "makes for" comes over as a bit clumsy.
    And anyway, you've got enough to think about what with my smilies shooting themselves and whatnot.
    :)

    AND
    it is perfectly fine to use "crawl" instead of "move", or any other verb you like.
    dances, scuttles, runs, nudges, tiptoes, etc.
    All of these could be followed by "towards".

    OR:
    (oh no, too much man, it's too much)
    you could... even use the word "after".
    as in something like:
    "That bug is after me"
    "The crab is after her"
    "The killer bug is after you"
    etc.

    Ideas for a track title:
    "the bug dance scary boogie"
    "creepy bug shuffle"
    "scuttle and hide"
    "Hey, Crab don't bug me when I'm terrified".
    I know these titles are garbage, but they're still on track I hope.
    :)

    And also, BTW, all of the answers above mine are cool too.
    There's no real "right" or "wrong" when it comes to you identifying your own Track.
    I best stop now.
     
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    The crab makes your skin crawl........

    The crab can crawl to (or towards) you or over you

    Does Scottish count :bleh:
     
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    Don't Scots always count?
    :)
     
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    mild pump milk Russian Milk Drunkard

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    Thanks, guys. The concept is :
    They (annoying disgusting poisoned venomous insects) will come to you intentl while you are sleeping, and they will kill you too slowly, so you will be suffering, frightened and blah blah, and after that they will go back.
    So, probably it will be "... Will Crawl For You"
    First it was "... Will Come", then "... Will Crawl To/Towards You". Probably, it is better to say "FOR"

    This is an old skool acid, guys) an old track will be released in a refreshed way)
     
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    Personally, I'd say that the crab scuttles towards XYZ. Or lunges at. The problem w/ saying the crab crawls for someone is that it makes it sound like the crab is subservient towards whoever; ambiguous.
     
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    'For' doesn't work in this instance. as it would imply 'for your benefit' (and it wouldn't be)

    'Crawl towards,' fits perfectly here, as 'walk' doesn't imply impending severity. 'Crawl' used here gives a feeling of horror, which is what you are going for.
     
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    Bugs crawl but a crab's sidewise style of movement is a "scuttle". Therefore, one would say the crab scuttled towards the (whatever) or scuttled away from.... However, if it were many crabs, or many bugs, it would be ok to say "the bugs swarmed towards the.....", or "the crabs swarmed...."
     
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    Agreed, but initially it wasn't necessarily crabs, it might have been a crab or insects of some kind. It was somewhat non ambiguous, now I'm no longer sure!
     
  19. Herr Durr

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    in the night when the creeps come calling for you... crawling for you .. with crab claws for you ..
    bitter bugs come to poison you .. and penetrate you with pestilence..

    I love a happy song.. :yes:
     
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    Was it a Bing Crosby Love Song per chance?
     
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    In that case, you're first try was pretty much spot on the money.
    "They're coming for you" is pretty scary just as it is.
    If something/someone is "coming for him", it's always threatening.
    The cops "come for you and your accomplices"
    If the secret service "come for them in the night", it won't be to bring ice cream.
    "They always come for you at dawn" (that's probably about executions).
    Do you see? It's the context that matters here.

    "They come when it's dark"
    is, if I may say so, a pretty damn fine title for anything, in the right context.
    I'll let you have it for only twenty bitcoins and a mention on the flyer.:beg:

    So don't get too bogged down in this, your music will tell the story anyways, surely?
    Because sometimes it's not even the words that frighten, it's the delivery.
    Innocent phrases can take on a whole slew of new, trouser soilingly disturbing entertainment:
    "Here's Johnny"

    or:
    "They're here".

    (but that's not such a great movie though) :)
    and
    "Luke, I am your Father".
    "Houston, we have a problem"
    and so on.

    That stuff is what's classed as "understatement" in english, But I'm sorry I don't know what the Russian equivalent is.

    Anyhoo though, now you're in the spielplatz, swing that bat boy!
    :wink:
     
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