Edward Snowden’s Privacy Tips: “Get Rid Of Dropbox,” Avoid Facebook And Google

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  1. Catalyst

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    According to Edward Snowden, people who care about their privacy should stay away from popular consumer Internet services like Dropbox, Facebook, and Google.

    Snowden conducted a remote interview today as part of the New Yorker Festival, where he was asked a couple of variants on the question of what we can do to protect our privacy.

    His first answer called for a reform of government policies. Some people take the position that they “don’t have anything to hide,” but he argued that when you say that, “You’re inverting the model of responsibility for how rights work”:

    He added that on an individual level, people should seek out encrypted tools and stop using services that are “hostile to privacy.” For one thing, he said you should “get rid of Dropbox,” because it doesn’t support encryption, and you should consider alternatives like SpiderOak. (Snowden made similar comments over the summer, with Dropbox responding that protecting users’ information is “a top priority.”)

    [Update: In a June blog post related to Snowden, Dropbox actually says, "All files sent and retrieved from Dropbox are encrypted while traveling between you and our servers," as well as when they're "at rest on our servers," and it points to other security measures that the company is taking. The difference between Dropbox and SpiderOak, as explained elsewhere, is that SpiderOak encrypts the data while it's on your computer, as opposed to only encrypting it "in transit" and on the company's servers.]

    [And here's a more complete Snowden quote, from around 1:04:55 in the video: "We're talking about encryption. We're talking about dropping programs that are hostile to privacy. For example, Dropbox? Get rid of Dropbox, it doesn't support encryption, it doesn't protect your private files. And use competitors like SpiderOak, that do the same exact service but they protect the content of what you're sharing."]

    He also suggested that while Facebook and Google have improved their security, they remain “dangerous services” that people should avoid. (Somewhat amusingly, anyone watching the interview via Google Hangout or YouTube saw a Google logo above Snowden’s face as he said this.) His final piece of advice on this front: Don’t send unencrypted text messages, but instead use services like RedPhone and Silent Circle.

    Earlier in the interview, Snowden dismissed claims that increased encryption on iOS will hurt crime-fighting efforts. Even with that encryption, he said law enforcement officials can still ask for warrants that will give them complete access to a suspect’s phone, which will include the key to the encrypted data. Plus, companies like Apple, AT&T, and Verizon can be subpoenaed for their data.

    Beyond the privacy discussion, Snowden talked about how and why he decided to leak documents bringing the government’s electronic surveillance programs to light. He repeatedly claimed that he wasn’t pursuing a specific policy outcome, but just trying to have an open conversation about these issues:

    As for why Snowden hasn’t come back to the United States to stand trial, he said that when he looked at how the U.S. government treated whistleblowers like Thomas Drake and Chelsea Manning, he became convinced that he wouldn’t be able to present his case to a jury in an open trial.

    “I’ve told the government again and again in negotiations, you know, that if they’re prepared to offer an open trial, a fair trial in the same way that Dan Ellsberg got, and I’m allowed to make my case to the jury, I would love to do so,” he said. “But to this point they’ve declined.”

    Snowden acknowledged that there’s some irony in his taking shelter in China and Russia, countries that don’t exactly have spotless human rights or privacy records themselves. He said Russia was supposed to be a transit point on his way to Latin America — but his passport was canceled while he was at the Moscow airport.

    The New Yorker’s Jane Mayer ended the interview on a light note, suggesting that Snowden was now free to enjoy some vodka. He replied, “I actually don’t drink alcohol. Little-known fact: I’ve never been drunk.”

    Here’s a full video of the interview. The discussion of privacy and consumer Internet services (which, again, consisted of two questions in a row) begins at around 58:30.

    Source: Tech Crunch
     
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  3. lukie

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    Yes if only governments spent as much time on Ebola as they do peoples privacy.
    but I suppose governments don't make money from dead people.

    f**k all governments and the c**ts in them :rofl:
     
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    ... they make big money from/out of dead human beings ...

    Whatever one can say about Edward as a person, this guy has guts!
    He`s in the positition to catch the "naive end consumers attention" and does it. I don`t mean it as a judgement in any way, for now it feels like a good thing. We will see ...
     
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    Regarding Ebola, I found this documentary to be quite interesting, if not eye opening:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz9JZj-VjFA

    To me, this whole ebola shebang feels like manufactured fear porn since day one.

    And now regarding what Snowden said there, I think everyone who has more than 2 brain cells should've already assumed that was a situation.
    I mean, when you hear that Condoleezza Rice (G. W. Bush's "right hand") has been put in charge of Dropbox as a CEO, what more do you need to be said on that subject?

    We all have our favorite cloud services, I'm sure. I personally have found cubby.com and copy.com to be the best so far.
    Mega also looks decent.

    Regarding Facebook, all i can do is laugh. I mean, whoever thought that a data aggregate such as FB is private is not very bright.

    and finally, regarding Google;
    step01) search for Eric Schmidt's (Google CEO) photo, look at it and decide if you want to trust this guy.
    Also, be aware that he's a part of the Bilderberg group, and that's no secret.
    step02) use DuckDuckGo as an alternative.
     
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    I give very little credence to Snowden. His rise in the army to the intelligence services is very hazy and dubious, 'Despite his lack of formal qualifications, it is said that his computer wizardry allowed him to quickly rise through intelligence ranks' - nonsense! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22837100 it's the kind of bullshit the people swallow without thinking about it. This guy is an Illuminati plant. Nothing of what he says is necessarily so, but he says things that he knows people will not question. Look also at why the big media players are running this story, why believe him and not all the other whistleblowers, where are the BBC interviews with David Icke or Alex Jones and many others? Snowden is a diversion.
     
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    While on the subject of Dropbox, some fresh developments:

    http://tinyurl.com/qhy6ver
     
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    A long time the domination was by conquered territory and they serve hteir magesty.
    Yesterday was by culture... and they serve the president
    And now we discover the internet... and they serve the industry... what a shame :bleh:
     
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    in a related story, the sky is still blue.
     
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    Yeah, look for the "Illuminati" and ignore what's in front of your face. It's just how the system works.
     
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    Privacy is something ppl will care about...when they stop showing their a** and boobs all over the net :rofl:
    How you can think about privacy when you spend your time sharing everything, to get more clicks ?

    It is the opposite. A lot of ppl don't want privacy, they want FAME, clicks and "followers".
    And when you go that way, you are going to do everything...but not protecting your privacy for sure.

    When enough ppl will get troubles with clouds, social websites and such, things will move. But it is not today :wink:
     
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    thats easy.. done!!!

    never had Facebook... Dropbox... in the first place :rofl:

    and Google?... trashed that shit a year or so ago..

    as far as and FB alternative?... seems this new Ello might be the new fad
     
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    Conspiracy theories is what I call diversion. "Wizardry" in computers or their usage? :rofl:

    A man worked for federal services, is in exil and the spotlight of mainstream media ... why not, starting another sell out as he`s used to, already? It`s exactly the point I`m afraid about, this "I`ve learned by my mistakes" presentation he delivers ...
    Anyway, it inspires me for another signature change, lol.

    The Dropbox Hack ... I posted in let`s say "inappropriate manner" about it, sorry for that ...
    Somebody claims ... over 6 mio accounts, 400 as a teaser, get the rest by "donating" Bitcoins. Another guy replied with: "Do not pay this Script Kiddy, I run a script changing the pw`s!" and so on and forth.
    I guess we won`t get the truth shortly, even if the hack is real, Google simply has the power to bury it.

    Facebook "alternatives" seem to boom, according to a vast number of blogs and as far as I recognized younger generations don`t like/use it any longer. Decentralization is on it`s way, apparently ...
     
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    Stupid question as he would have a fair trial?
    And why would he?
    Does that american people think he wants to go to jail?
    Or even worse be executed for telling the truth?
    I think he deserve the nobel piece price and that they should take it back from Obama.
     
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    So Usa hasnt spied on European countrys then?
    Angela Merker shure thinks different so does all Europan leaders.
    Except for USA ass lickers England that does everything USA says.
    I guess you are an American that has swollow the USA propaganda?
    USA is exactly like Sovjet was back in the cold war days.
     
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    I've made this point before: Other governments are involved in the same thing. Germany is one of the most ridiculous countries when it comes to this kind of thing and they assist the US...all the time. You don't want me to start posting what they've been involved in. All countries do it, not all countries get caught with their pants down like that though.
     
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    "Illuminati" or not (or, what?), I don't trust this Snowden personage, either. Lots of people don't. There's a lot of murmuring about his being an NSA ruse, to get people used to the idea that The Powers That Be (can, will, and are) invading and eroding our privacy systematically and aggressively. He's too cool, too calm, too collected, too well-versed (as though rehearsed) and too "right" to not be suspicious. He doesn't speak with any righteous urgency or desperation - he's a spokesgeek. He (?) keeps releasing "new" documents all the time - but hadn't he obtained them all prior to leaving the NSA? If so, why isn't he releasing them all at once - wouldn't they all be equally urgent and significant? And how is he managing to live (fairly comfortably) in Russia? Who's footing the bill for that? Why hasn't he been assassinated, if he's so "dangerous?" How did he manage to fly all over the world before ending up in Russia - not just to pay for it, but to not be tracked and apprehended or killed? I have no idea for whom he's working, why this Snowden drama is being prolonged, nor what the ultimate end of this is, but it doesn't smell like a legitimate fugitive freedom fighter "in hiding" to me.
     
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    edit: NVM, a little more reading is needed.
     
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