No, we are not talking about "ways of thinking"
You made a claim about reality itself. about what occurred on planet earth whether me and you were never born or not.
these answer to if your claim is accurate has nothing to do with yours or my ways of thinking.
you are of course welcome to take any position you want though.

 

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There are as many ways to learn jazz as their are jazz musicians in this world. What matters is what works best for how you learn... Personally, I began learning jazz subscribing to institutionalized & over monetized Berklee methods. Modes, scales, patterns, ear training and transcribing... It always felt convoluted and stale. Which is why I believe in my heart the term “Berklee Jazz” is a valid and completely separate genre of jazz. The past 2 years I had an unbelievable break through once I learned about a cat named Barry Harris. He’s one of the last greats still alive today. He played with and taught many of the legendary bop players. Barry and Monk were best friends and lived together if that tells you anything... Here’s a birds eye glance of how he teaches the old school methods. The originators didn’t have the Berklee machine back in the day and their approach to jazz was more intuitive and efficient than the modal Berklee method made popular because of Miles - Barry has some choice words about Miles if you ever dig into some of his interviews, and they make sense... Dig.

Barry still teaches to this day. Every Tuesday in NYC. $5 for a 4 hour masterclass. He is jazz. Nobody will ever convince me he isn’t because of the melodic and harmonic worlds his methods have opened up to me are irrefutable. You can buy his workshop DVDS which are pricey but the content within them is worth the cost.

http://www.barryharris.com/

 

Please pardon, but do go look - I hope to be introducing several methods that I learned (sequentially over a period of decades) that helped me understand and play jazz improv. I m pressed for time always for some reason, getting old I guess, and can only post up the share (or call them lessons if you want) over the next few months. Will post the first proper lesson, soon after I explain my hesitance in my next video (I m in Asia, Singapore to be exact, that makes it hard to even want to share or be generous, been 3rd degree burnt over and over...), but for the good people in the rest of the world - for the ones cannot afford rich teachers who overcharge for information more freely available because of the internet, I want to give to these wonderful, suffering souls. Hope that does not make me seem like some kind of know it all, I will just be sharing what I know... thanks for reading, and hope you go check out how I do jazz

 

Online teaching in any discipline will never replace being in the same room with a teacher no matter the institution's reputation.
The skills in terms or musical theory and approach might be identical, but you do not get the benefit that only comes from being in the same room with an artist tthat has lived jazz sharing their experiences. They then say why whatever they are teaching is useful and how their experiences have shown them when, what and how to use it. As well, a person gets to play with others trying what they are taught in a performance situation.

No online course can ever give a person that because it is only data, even with digital video and audio aesthetics. A video is a one-off. The teacher shares different experiences in life perpetually and passes on real life experiences that no online course no matter how comprehensive, will ever give anyone. Most big video courses are around three months. Most in-person jazz courses are many years. If someone wants to do a jazz course it is practical to find someone that has lived it and go to the college they teach at and not do it online.
Just an opinion.

 

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the jazz theory was claimed its free theory than classics but its just another ways of thinking.(theres no complete music production theory exist but i can make it and release it at public, but i dont and never, i also think a composer whose has same ability or better than me would never do that, probably you never know its why, because you cant.)
if you starting to defend your belief, you are already went wrong.
i never defend anything, what i did is only makes truth clear.
staying on yours fake world, losers.

 

I'm not fluent in troll my friend best of luck.

 

thank you love to have you!

 

this so funny is, that me must tell you.

I guess thomas edison sharing the light bulb meant he was not very intelligent for not keeping it to himself right?
or how about E=mc2 by Einstein sharing it with the world, he was dumber than if he kept it to himself right?
comon you can do better than that!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
put a little effort in that noggin friend and you will get so much more out of it!

 

http://www.javierarau.com/augmented-scale-theory/

 

JAZZ is like modern ART!
may i add some other "explanations" and bring analogies to Jazzmusic in Modern Art

Jazz is knowing all the History of Music and Theory then throwing away all the knowledge and have fun finding new paths.

 

Hope to be of some assistance soon, will post more (and really helpful videos) in this useful thread, thank you!

 

I am going to begin to make a new Jazz song in the next few days using the information contained in this thread ( just have to finish a job first)

 

means a lot thanks so much!

 

Im grateful for your kind words my friend i hope it inspires you gives you ton of ideas and i plan to have much more coming!

 

Here is example of teaching adding chromatics

This one is great because it really self explanatory with the theory ,regarding the KEY, the chords, the grace notes AKA leading tones.

We take the Amin7 (Dorian) ii of Gmajor ACEG
Aroot, C 3rd E5th G7th
now against the strum of the chord we create a melody
start from that chord's 7th (min7) ,next down 2 semitones then lower leading tone(flat 5th) to the
5th E

so chord rings ACEG

melody is G,F#,F,Eflat,E

NOW, we use this formula for Amaj7, A7,Amin7flat5
formula is, starting from that chord's 7th and landing on its 5th (2 semi tones down, then lower leading tone before landing on the 5th )
the idea is 2 structure notes 7th to 5th with grace notes and leading tone
this gets us thinking about how to "say something" just by 7th to 5th

practice these, next same thing from the 3rd!

 

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for this teacher's patience!
>>>> dim-dim-dim-da-damm dim-dim-dim-da-damm dim-dim-dim-da-damm dim-dim-dim-da-damm dim-dim-dim-da-damm dim-dim-dim-da-damm dim-dim-dim-da-damm dim-dim-dim-da-DAMN! ...

 

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