Dynamic Range

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  1. l3N

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    Hi guys. How can I change the dynamic range of audio track? I tried using a compressor but it didn't work
     
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    The main devices that CHANGE dynamics are compressors and expanders.
    If you want to DECREASE dynamics use compressors and if you want to INCREASE dynamics use expanders.
    If you just want increase loudness, use a compressor AND increase gain.
    At times there is something called autogain or makeup gain.
     
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    Hi.

    It depends. do you know what dynamic range is?
    simply put is the balance between noise and silence in your song.
    do you want to lower it or to elevate it?
    if your dynamic range is low compression wont help. it probably means your song is too loud all the time and need some quieter parts. the opposite could be true too (too quiet all the time).
     
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    Compression reduces the dynamic range of a sound. It turns down the loudest parts of the sound while bringing the quietest parts up. This makes the volume more consistent but decreases the dynamic range. This web page offers some tips in how to maybe increase the dynamic range of a song... could be of some use to you?
    https://www.reddit.com/r/edmproduct...i_increase_my_dynamic_range_levels/?rdt=35057
     
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    Downward compression suppresses loud parts, transients which are above threshold.
    Upward compression gains up quiet parts, noises which are below threshold.
    Downward expansion suppreses quiet parts, noises which are below threshold.
    Upward expansion gains up loud parts, transients which are above threshold
     
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    Thanks. I tried to increase using downward compression :mad:
     
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    Depends on the source. If the signal has a loud initial transient then a compressor might not catch it. You could try using a compressor with lookahead although these can miss the transient too. Otherwise, use a limiter with lookahead or even a loudness maximizer like LoudMax. But don't forget that you have too turn the signal up afterwards.
     
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    Or use a clipper.
     
  10. Sinus Well

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    use medium attack
     
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    Makeup gain afterward perhaps?
     
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    Makeup does not affect the dynamic range.
     
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    This, then ratio, as low as you can get it.

    Without an expander too, this would just make everything louder in direct proportion. You want the highs to get as high as possible, and the (quiet) lows to be as low as possible; so there is the greatest possible difference. But the threshold sets the amount of original signal it lets through unprocessed before the compressor is tripped.

    But you might find this to be a problem, because your compressor is only going to be able to work in one direction, with dynamically processed signal. Up or down. So if you are doing that hypothetical situation, wouldn't a multi-band compressor actually be the better tool to use?
     
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  14. l3N

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    OTT preset for balance ? if first song has 7 DR and second song - 12 dr
    P.s.sorry i'm just learning and can say stupid things
     
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    OTT is an upward compressor. It does not increase dynamic range. It increases the average volume by bringing up the quietest parts, but this decreases your dynamic range. The range is the delta between those two values. You want an expander.

     
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    NOT ENOUGH I STILL SEE DAYLIGHT

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    As said before, if you want to use a compressor to increase your dynamic range, use a medium attack to let the transient through. Adjust your release to the length of the material. This way you reduce the tail in volume, which results in a higher dynamic range.
     
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    Thanks. i used a bus compressor and a transient shaper, the range changed.
     
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    How about level automation or a change in arrangement?

    Also, I'm curious why you would want to artificially change the DR?
     
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