DSP and DAW

Wekyz · Nov 9, 2020

Clayton123 said: ↑

This is weird. It seems like your cpu is running fine. One thing that stands out to me is in your BIOS, the BCLCK is 100.25 MHz. Normally it's at 100 MHz. This probably shouldn't effect anything, but BCLCK does effect how the components of your pc communicate, so it could be possible that having it slightly above 100 is causing a weird latency between your cpu and ram, or cpu and hard drive, or something like that. Try chaning the BCLCK to 100 MHz and see what happens. As a side note, try disabling AMD Cool&Quiet function in your BIOS. If your pc being a little noisier (and only a little), isn't a concern, and your cpu isn't overheating, this will get you more performance. I attatched a screenshot.

Download HWiNFO64, https://www.hwinfo.com/download/ which will give you a full overview of everything going on in your system. Look at the CPU (Tctl/Tdie) temperature to see your CPU temp (attached a screenshot). But since your score in Cinebench is about where it should be, I wouldn't think your cpu is overheating. But Cinebench is a quick test and maybe after your cpu runs for awhile in your DAW, it might be heating up. Work on a project in your DAW and keep HWiNFO open and keep an eye on your cpu temp.

It sounds to me like your hardware is fine and it must be a problem in Ableton or maybe windows. Your sound card driver is up to date right? 0-4% change between DirectX and sound card isn't a big deal. My cpu meter in ableton is sitting at 5% now with an empty project.
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Did disable the AMD Cool&Quiet but I don't find how to change BCLCK.
You gat a screenshot of Hwinfo64 with the processors while a session is running.

trutzburg said: ↑

I would give Sysinternals Process Explorer (free from M$) a try. It can show every single CPU in a graph and if you hover over a graph you are informed about the process that has the highest load (which TM can't do). Or, you can watch the overall CPU load of processes.
Now, I started Live (9 Lite) with an older sketch that uses several Vsts, and Live says it uses 13% while playing. But overall, the CPU load measured outside Live is 5% to 6%, with no other tasks except the OS. I think this is normal. My sketch uses several fx and grain processors, and they might have a background impact that can't be measured correctly.
Also, there should be an overhead for realtime processing that is targeted to prevent the daw from being overloaded. If you see your song using 70% you may hesitate to stack another Fx or synth on a track.
I saw this difference between CPU consumption values in Reaper and the old Cantabile 2.0, too.
The real problem is then, at which values the crackling and jittering begins, not those numbers.
I do not know about the Ryzen's behavior with thermal throttling. Luckily my notebook is relatively stable, but I have seen it sometimes slowing down the turbo under heavy load, so the hwinfo tip above is to be recommended (I used coretemp a while ago).
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Hey thanks for the advise, I runned it and I gat those results in the attached files.

Owan said: ↑

I think this issue is only due to Live 10 and it's completely independent from your hardware. Have you upgraded from 10.1.14 to 10.1.25 as of late?
I had exactly the same issue before upgrading to 10.1.x from 10.0.5. The reason was very simple, I did not clearly uninstall the previous version. For some reason it messed up because of old traces in various folders ( C program data etc.) ...
Following I did a totally clean uninstall and upgraded to 10.1.14, same VST plugins, same samples, same everything. This way the performance improved significantly by a lot, the issue completely disappeared! Have a try.
Good luck!
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Yeah I upgraded from 1.14 to 1.25. I will try this solution but now I face another problem. My hard drives become unallocated for no reason... So I can't try to run my session

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