Don't get mad get money

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  1. triggerflipper

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    Come on, guy. I'll give you 20 bucks.
     
  2. KUSHSMOKERLIT

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    i bet some of yall have nightmares with dongles , it's not that big of a deal it's easy to set them up and use them
     
  3. Putinaros22

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    This is no.1 Bullshit !

    My first ever tutorial was to follow Mr.Bill to a track he has made with : His Keyboard as a midi player , the Ableton Audio Effects as a Synth Modulation and of course without any vst but all Abletons Synths ( only to get the waves , saw , sine etc )............... After some hours my head was like a frisbie .......... i think he is also a Millionaire and his productions are top notch !!!!!

    So ,,,,,,,,, you have to understand that you can be famous and rich by only use your Mind and your talent . The tools come second , third or last . . . all other are excuses .
     
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  4. xorome

    xorome Audiosexual

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    Sort of tangential. A few years ago, I read a thread on another forum in which someone asked developers for senior discounts. A few developers chimed in, saying pensioners make up a very substantial portion of their customer base, suggesting their prices were already 'retiree prices'.

    Anyway, audio is essential oils for guys - with prices to match.
    $0 vs $200 compressor has never made the difference between a song charting or not.
     
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  5. Putinaros22

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    Also when you can use a cracked vst of 150+ euros for free and instead of that you go and buy it then its logical the prices of the VST Companies to be so high like Piracy never existed !! Piracy is a way to drop the prices of AIR selling but most people cant understand the power they have in their hands . Dont buy expensive plugins , use cracked ones in order to drop the prices !!! Its so simple but on Planet Earth the Stupidity Rulezzzzzzzz !!!!!
     
  6. twoheart

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    And the truthfulness of sentences increases with the number of exclamation marks behind them.:thumbsup:
    !*111!^111
     
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  8. Djord Emer

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    So you're basically saying "you should get a job and buy the plugin but if you're poor in a third world country I feel sorry for you"
     
  9. Olymoon

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    So guys, basically, you have one troll setting a thread with such a poor argument that it can be taken down with one sentence: what about people in poor countries?
    He did only one more comment aside of his statements and again a very poor comment.
    And that's not the first time he did this .
    But you all jump in the fry pan again?
    I thought he was going to be ignored...
     
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  10. djru5h

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    i want both... give me mad money!!
     
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  11. Psychoacoustic

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    Most internet gig markets (especially coding related) are incredibly saturated and difficult to consistently compete in unless you are very lucky or willing to work for a few dollars an hour, well below the US minimum wage - just as saturated as say, the bedroom music producer market.
     
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    prices are fine, it takes a lot of work to finalize and finish a plugin project. And after all plugin devs also need to eat you know ...

    you can always using something else in replacement if you dont have the money till you can buy it.

    Exclusion i would make for shitty protections, like iLok, be always online, online activations, subs, or simply overdone protections ... those do deserve any money as its shit towards the costumer ...
     
  13. Sinus Well

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    Yes, that's true. But that is a completely different topic. I'm sorry, but you don't even seem to have grasped the essence of my statement. Not a single one of my posts was about contract service gigs.
     
  14. Psychoacoustic

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    You mentioned "hobby projects", which is still the gig economy (perhaps I have a broader definition than you).

    Job wise it is the same problem, people in the global south are discriminated against/paid much less for online jobs (including 'high skill' jobs like coding) simply due to where they reside. Emigration to a wealthy country is difficult and starting a decent business if you don't have the contacts/industry hookups even more so.

    Similarly, if there are particular niches where there are genuine shortages, it is usually for a reason - usually such jobs require a level of intelligence that might only be available to 5% of the population and those people already have an abundance of options.
     
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  15. Choosename

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    @KUSHSMOKERLIT has a thread about his personal problems, anyone who have read that will empathize with him. He is young, he is learning, he said is gonna leave, but he is still with us, he shared his music and generates controversy like no one.
     
  16. Sinus Well

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    You lump together several complex topics such as discrimination, migration, global economic functions and freelance work. How am I supposed to answer that? Hmm...

    How much someone earns in a country depends on the economic development of that country. This is largely determined by internal and external political and economic factors. If I hire someone abroad with a low per capita income for a freelance gig, why should I pay the same as for someone from my own country, where incomes are higher? A low budget is probably the reason why I looked for a freelancer abroad in the first place. If I hire someone from my own country, I have to pay more and the freelancer abroad gets, well, nothing. This has nothing to do with discrimination, but with business basics. The market determines the price. Is that fair? I don't know. It is what it is. And I don't think we should go any further into the subject here. I guess Oly's finger is already on the trigger.

    The thing is: It has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about. You seem to think in very well-trodden paths. You're talking about the classic ways of earning money. And that's good. But those are not the only options. I've mentioned another one and there are many more. Did you know, for example, that people are willing to pay you for learning new things if it gives them the opportunity to learn something from your learning experiences without having to make mistakes themselves? Well, you are learning, not them. Double win for you. It doesn't matter where you come from, but whether you make smart decisions!

    I'm not talking about building a business, although that is also possible, I'm talking about creating side income. Investing in yourself and letting others invest in you. Even if it fails because of your own mistakes (yes, OWN mistakes), you haven't lost anything. You have gained something.
     
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  17. Olymoon

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    Yes, nowadays I know so many people that have asperger ...
    It's strange that 30 years ago, there was not so much.
    I even see a kind of behavior in common, and not speaking about visible symptoms, but about clothes and general behavior and tastes, including big laziness ... So, asperger certainly exist, but I dont believe all people that say they have really have it.

    About controversy, I disagree. To put me into controversy, arguments have to be valid. Otherwise it's just lost of time.
     
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  18. Choosename

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    This is gonna be a cross reply, involving other threads of @KUSHSMOKERLIT but 30 years ago, teachers beat the students inside classrom,for example, in 30 years world has changed for the better in some areas, and for the worst in others. That's a long debate. The over diagnosis of Asperger syndrome VS the absolute lack of diagnosis of a yet unnaproved medical standard ?

    Not so long ago, medical bloodletting where very common. We are evolving, maybe medicine is not perfect, but evolves. And I trust them more than "charlatans", "healers", etc
    About people faking sympthoms, that's not fair. Just a non professional oppinion, and this message has all the ingredients to be also invalid.
    But still controversial.
     
  19. tori

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    I get that autism might be over diagnosis, like ADHD 20 years ago. But there are many people who really suffer from these disabilitys. So it's a little mean to to claim that some people like OP are only pretending. Sadly there are some people otherwise who indeed pretend that they have some mental disease, but they actually don't have it. Those people are a huge problem for people who really have autism, adhd, depression ect, because they make it like a special snowflake thing, or they just want attention like attentionwhores. So that many people think of attentionwhores if someone talks about their mental illnes or disability.

    I'm not a fan of Kushsmokerlit, because his threads are really annoying and weird to me, and he seems to doesn't really care if someone writes a well-meant comment. He wanted to stop being on Audiosex and sistersite, but after his "farewell", he's somehow even more agressive than ever before... I don't get this lol

    I'm sure that he really has autism and I believe all his problems are real. I feel sorry for him, because I have similar problems. But I think that Audiosex and sister site are not really helpful for him right now. Because he seems to be really obsessed with uncracked plugins, so much that he doesn't even want to try available alternatives that are free or on sister site... He really should take an Audiosex and Sistersite break and he should try making music with just the DAW plugins...
     
  20. Kate Middleton

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    I have a job. I am getting paid.. I bought Alot in 2017, 2018 and 2019 LOL but why pay something if you get it free? id rather save it for hardware synths collection and or new computer parts that is really worth to pay for
     
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