Don't Blame Young People.

Discussion in 'Music' started by black.afrika.zulu.x, Nov 1, 2017.

  1. Pinkman

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    Actually learning something is an art all unto itself.

    And then it begins...
     
  2. black.afrika.zulu.x

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    Yeah, like calligraphy...

    And then word processors came along.
     
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  3. black.afrika.zulu.x

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    WOW! TIMBALAND sounds really bad now.
     
  4. Lambchop

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    Fkn grownups. It's like they don't even care about our creative needs!
     
  5. dragonhill

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    Basically a DAW that doesn't require any music theory knowledge? Perhaps you are equating sound design with music creation?
     
  6. black.afrika.zulu.x

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    But James Brown didn't have any "music theory knowledge" though. He grunted and gestured and spoke Soul Power to his band :)
     
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  7. dragonhill

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    So no one needs musical knowledge since JB did without? He made sure he surrounded himself with knowledgeable people.

    I wonder how Prince or Stevie Wonder would've done without the knowledge?


    Just because George Bush and Hitler threw some paint on a canvas they are now artists?
     
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  8. statik

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    ok now i'm sure it's steve again under a different name... his responses are very similair, he acts the same way and most of all his reasoning is beyond stupid
     
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  9. electriclash

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    at 12 years old james brown started singing in gospel choir (1945). at 16 he started a choir in the jail he was doing time in (1949). In 1956, under the moniker The Famous Flames, he released, 'Please Please Please' and 'Try Me'. His 'musical theory knowledge' was hard earned over that time.

    He didn't just pop out and go, 'wwEOooOOWAH' and then boom, 'Sex Machine' was born. His talent guided him to excellent session players who recognized and understood his abilities.

    Do you think sample libraries haven't tried to give you, 'full sounding, multi sampled kick and snr sounds? It's the experience that tells YOU, the producer, which sounds to use and how to seat them in a mix to sound good. There is no substitute for this, although your request certainly does not seem singular as companies like ik multimedia, izotope and sample magic are all working on this type of 'one knob' solution...
     
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  10. phloopy

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    @black.afrika.zulu.x
    Very refreshing point of views here - respect :like:

    Not that agree with everything you´ve said but refreshing it is :yes:
     
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  11. tooloud

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    Sounds like a perfect formula for making everybody sound more alike than they already do. My preferred DAW is Logic. I love the fact that the workflow is like working with tape. With it I have made a living, meaning it supplies an income, due to its flexibility. I have created soundtracks and sound effects for films, programmed midi files to supplement rock bands, recorded folk, soul, funk, hip hop and rap. With every job, I learn something new and have never once felt the tools at my disposal were lacking. I would be horrified if Apple released a statement informing me that Logic would be rewritten to cater to the needs of some possible, guessed at future generations creative requirements.
     
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  12. statik

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    and demanding this would be the most egotestical thing ever, typical narrowminded point of view
     
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  13. tooloud

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    Afrika Zulu dislikes me for being a working audio producer. Does this seem petty?
     
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  14. tooloud

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    I embrace and give praise to the tools that replaced large consoles, 2" tape, microphones that were only for the elite, preamps that cost more than all of the cars I have ever owned. I may have a romantic attachment to the 'old days' but now there is no limit to what I can do alone. No session musicians, no need to order SFX CD's.... I can, and have worked with overseas artists via email... I have even Skyped as a musician played me a guitar part for me to program. So I ask "what is lacking in current music technology that makes somebody so bitter and resentful that they feel the whole industry is failing"?
     
  15. MMJ2017

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    I like to collab with hard headed folks.
     
  16. twoheart

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    So true :rofl:
     
  17. Polymetrix

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    The answer to that is quite easy:
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  18. tooloud

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    Would a Hard Headed Woman suffice?

     
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  19. sparkles

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    "Embrace and control the chaos" beautiful phrase for a song dude, very deep,or for a tittle if you like, maybe i like :) . Actually i m not in a panic mood having dozens of plugins, in general i waste a lot of time to use all of them us i do not have much time to waste hehe and i say "waste" not because the time is wasted when you (I) programming music, the wasted time is when i;m searching which plugin to use for a specific situation, when i have some good plugins and i know them very well !
    Well, the decision is free ,plenty fish in the sea, we are happy ,we are good, we are the wooooord....
     
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  20. seriousofficial

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    the thing is, even if you had standardized-to-your-own-flavor-workflows programmable in a DAW, each song or production you work on would require something that wasn't in one of your previous workflows, unless you rewrite the same stuff over and over again. If I use a 'standard' configuration on drums for one song, it doesn't mean that this configuration works out in the next song, simply because it is another song with a different arrangement, different use of instruments, etc. The way the sound is layered is different. I could have a basic configuration there but I would most likely end up using the eq's and compression very different to how I used it in that previous song production. You give it what it demands, your ears will unmistakenly tell you so and you have to know what you've been doing and why you did it. I do think that DAW's will improve in the near future and new technical developments will be integrated but I do not think that the improvements will bring a standardization of presets and templates leading to a uniformity. There are simply too many variables and parameters to take into account.
     
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