So......you're pissed you can't watch some tutorials which you think are crap anyway?

Why not just put it down to experience? Buyer's remorse, at worst? And if the tut on 'dynamics' is going to be crap, why would you care so much about it? And if the folks doing the tuts don't know what they are doing, as you suggest, then why care about 'missing out' on it?

It is fairly standard practice for video sites to offer streaming and downloads as a separate thing. For instance, pornography sites do it - according to my mother. She says she always checks the terms carefully so she knows the deal, before she signs up. If it isn't clear, she doesn't sign-up (she says).

And let's not play the innocent, you're surely quite aware of the logic and business sense in making downloads different to streaming, and for businesses having terms that try to prevent you circumventing their own (reasonable) material interests.

Finally, tutorials are a pretty subjective thing, like meeting people generally - some folks you hit it off with, some you don't so much. All education happens in the same dynamic. And what's your level, what's the tutorial? There isn't a standard qualification for, say, "Making Plucks in Serum" and you're surely not after a qualification anyway.

As you say, some of the stuff in tutorials is what lots of people have wanted to know - how to make XYZ music, whatever. Hence tutorials seem a burgeoning business (in part thanks to Warez) but how profitable is it? Maybe it isn't particularly, I don't know. Most (all?) providers put some of their tutorials on YouTube, as a gift, a taster. And YouTube is their **free** competition - there are tons of tutorials on YT - it's overflowing. So, use YouTube? I don't see DMP have done anything wrong, and if you don't like their vids, don't buy them?



Incidentally, all this is largely fuelled by Warez, I suspect. And rather than it being a bad thing, I think the proliferation of Warez actually provides the oil to grease the wheels of all a lot of businesses. Specifically :- YouTube, Tutorial providers, DAW developers, Bitlocker websites, uploaders, music websites and plugin makers too. None of these businesses would have the prominence they do without Warez.

Yes, one can see Warez as a loss of revenue for the software developers, providers and rights owners etc, but without Warez of DAWS, there wouldn't be such a demand for plugins, and without Warez of plugins there wouldn't be the demand for DAWS. And without a proliferation of Warez there wouldn't be the demand for Tutorials to use it all.

And absent Warez there wouldn't be a proliferation of people trying to actually learn to be the next big thing, making music, buying tutorials, buying plugins, making plugins, watching adverts, watching tutorials, making tutorials etc etc etc.

Rather than see Warez as leeching revenue out of the system, it's quite possible to also see it as a lubricant serving the interests of the entire production-consumption chain re 'Making Music'. However it's also true that it can't really be admitted by the main players. And preventing Warez overwhelming the formal market is a must, of course - for Warez too, logically.

Regardless, whatever the ethics or mechanics of it all, it is no doubt providing the biggest opportunity for talent to flourish that the world has ever seen. I think it's a golden age, which will perhaps not last. But it will surely produce a tsunami of talent in art of all stripes. Some neglected kid in a tower block somewhere is using Warez to make some beats, unknowingly getting ready to become the world's best. Nobody could (should) say they would wish her away.

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Pretty much agree with all of that, except the bit where you've misunderstood that I haven't said all the tutorials are crap. The Genre tutorials are crap from what I've seen.

I've also watched the first part of the Advanced Dynamics and wanted to see the second part (which was released yesterday/isn't released yet/has been finished and watched by Admin/hasn't finished recording yet because the Tutor is ill???). Kind of defeats the point of joining to begin with.

The summary is, don't join the Sub Club. I think that has been made clear by their own words.

Sounds about right. Why give people money to watch tutorials? If it gets warez'd somebody send me a link. ;) Thanks