Disappointing to see sister site transition to EDM

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  1. babuk

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    2020 and they still rant EDM. At this point they need counseling , not debates.
     
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  2. Xupito

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    True, at least narrow it down to trap... or something...:rofl::rofl:
     
  3. The Revenant

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    You terribly misunderstood me.
    I never said I want to download for free more things that I like.
    I'm not whining because there are a very large majority of samples and kits that allow any 12 year old moron to produce dumb music for uneducated audiences, I moan because the more this kind of crap is available (and, worse, for free), the more it becomes the standard upon which young ears rely. It's like junk food: the more it's available, the more you eat it and the more difficult you will have to appreciate refined dishes (and the faster you will develop cancer and/or cardiovascular disease).
     
  4. Slavestate

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    Sounds like your issue goes far beyond the offerings of a pirate warez site, and maybe you need to take it up with the industry itself for forcing this style down peoples throats..

    Go write some awesome disco metal funk folk tunes then and change the worlds perspective. EDM shit is going to be around as long as the masses keep asking for it, its called supply and demand, aka basic economics.
     
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  5. rudolph

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    Fuck basic economics, just look at the world it has help constructed and keep eating what they feed you in your slave state.
     
  6. The Revenant

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    The masses don't ask for this shit. Industry feed them with EDM because the ratio cost/gains is enormously advantageous in regard of real music made by real musicians (with the result that big studios are dying).
    Well, if it was "supply because of demand" (as I understand correctly what you mean), then advertising would have no purpose. On the contrary, it's the exact opposite which occurs: over-advertising creates the need (demand) and supply come to fill that need. THAT is basic economics.
     
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  7. Slavestate

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    So everyone just goes to what they call raves nowadays and dance parties and dj 'shows' like a good little sheep because they're told to? Everyone buys stuff from the iTunes Store against their own free will and choice? They dont actually enjoy listening or going? The audio industry is pretty powerful then if it has psychological control down that well. It goes both ways. The fad starts trending, the devs keep feeding it. The marketers have to squeeze every penny they can out of it until the next one starts, in order to hopefully be there when it happens. For the majority, until something else comes along that's "cooler" they just ride the train like good little drones.

    As I said, now that they've got the fish biting, its up to someone to make a bigger lure to catch everyone's attention and break the hold. Thats how music always been. Otherwise we might still be listening to nothing but big band and swing jazz.
     
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  8. Talmi

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    Man loudness war, doing a format that the "mass" gets addicted to, shit clip video, easy lyrics for small brains, marketing campaign to sell t-shirt, etc. None of that started with EDM. The beattles did it (short of the loudness war), Metallica, actually any successfull band in the last 50 years also did. The studios, that indeed are closing, are the ones that started that madness.
    You're talking to a bunch of engineer, lots of them make a living out of this crap. Stop being children, we all live in capitalism, music has stopped being an art long ago, it's an industry, it doesn't matter the genre.
    Jesus.
     
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  9. rudolph

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    " music has stopped being an art long ago " ha ha ha haaahh... maybe your garbage has stopped thanks to your bunch of "engineers"
     
  10. Imprint

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    There are as many tastes in music as there are people on earth. You can not change the taste of people with anything other than music. If thousands of debates are opened on this subject, it will be of no use in changing people's tastes. You just have to do a good job and people will change their minds when they see and hear it.

    BTW, do not worry too much about spoiling the musical taste of people. Deterioration of tastes is a temporary thing and they are repaired by exposure to good music.:winker::wink:
     
  11. Talmi

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    It's unfortunate that we are on a forum. The written format doesn't work with illiterate people with a brain hardly enought evolved to read more than a half sentence.
    Again yes it is the engineers fault. The studios. The "musicians" doing a 3 minutes piece with 3 notes and 3 chords thinking they are inspired, a chorus easy to remember, etc. There is uniqueness in art, format kills that. Your garbage, my garbage, it doesn't matter. It is what it is. It started before EDM, loop packs, the sister site, the mass media, or MTV, and youtube, or whatever band you don't like. ha ha ha haaaah. Whatever that means.
     
  12. Illadelph

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    there are lots of little wide eyed scrotes running around posing and half-assing artistry though, i understand the sentiment.

    Lots of terrible EDM, and brainless teens uploading shit to youtube and soundcloud and just spamming everything to death with vapid crap (I couldnt bother my fkn lazy hole to Mix, master or even produce this properly, but check my soundcloud link and let me know what you think!)

    Lots of "Pro" electronic artists/DJ who havent actually got a bone of originality or musicality in their body or know a single scale, they have no education or understanding culture or wordly wisdom, the history of music or their connection to their humanity and.. i honestly think my dog would produce a more meaningful creative output!
    But they keep safely pumping out sub-par tunes year round without any sonic crimes against humanity charges brought upon them

    But if you say electronic music isnt music, you just stand out like an old person who hasnt lived fully yet
     
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  13. Pipotron3000

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    Take a look at Youtube "hot" music vids and vomit
    That's what real capitalist market is : a stack of useless sh1t sucking your brain for capitalist class profit
    Is it promoted ? It is pure sh1t

    I spend hours every week to FIND something good in this stack of sh1t
    Same way with scene releases : i already removed everything with some keywords.
    I will not post it, because poor snowflakes will cry.

    Once removed this garbage, may be there will be something good enough to try ... or not.
    And i DON'T blame scene or any site posting them. It is JUST market reality.

    Here is a gem i found : a metal cover from Lorn. And the original :wink:
    Listen loud with good speakers/headphones



     
  14. Illadelph

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    Was it "DUPE"? :)
    or maby Analog Obsession, Overloud, Klevgrand etc..
     
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    Creating feels from you.
     
  16. Gyro Gearloose

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    he never said that...gosh...
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    and BTW
    the half of electronic music maker and electronic dance musik makers dont want be related to EDM
    cause of that cheap recipe money game
    and BTW 2 : this not means there is no existing good EDM (after 2012 genres) music...but the main output...the famous output for the most is such crap
     
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  17. Illadelph

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    Brother i can barely understand anything you said, but i think i agree..
     
  18. Smoove Grooves

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    "Back", and in full effect! Did he ever go away?
    I was told that MORiA is imac-ruslan.
     
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  19. Illadelph

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    MORiA likes to release 0day NI libs, pretty kool
    same with r2r cracking rx8 on launch day, im cumming:yes:
     
  20. eXACT_Beats_

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    Sadly, I have to agree, fully, on this. :(
     
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