Default Producers not needing her song? Business side?

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  1. samsome

    samsome Producer

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    Hi i was watching this Miley Cirus vid
    she says at the beginning at 4 seconds that she showed the song to producers in LA but they were responding "we don't need it"

    i'm trying to understand the business side of this...they don't need it in regards to what? how does that work exactly

     
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  2. Olymoon

    Olymoon MODERATOR Staff Member

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    Most of the time "we don't need it" means, we already have someone that fits this same part of the market.
     
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  3. samsome

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    But what risk does the producer takes if they record Miley Cirus? i don't understand this part

    it seems like the producer is taking some sort of risk if they carry on.........Maybe Miley CIrus is requesting payment to enter their studio?

    Maybe she doesn't pay for recording time etc.......but instead maybe she requires payment and producer gets an ownership in the song?
     
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  4. No Avenger

    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    It's business. If they think the effort (time and money) ain't worth the income they just drop it.
     
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  5. Olymoon

    Olymoon MODERATOR Staff Member

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    If you are Miley Cyrus you don't pay for producer's nor studio. This is considered as producer's investment.
    Once the work is done, they will also have to invest in promo, even for Miley Cyrus.
    So, yes, they may be right or wrong, but they make their calculation and may not see a profitable operation.
     
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  6. Nick12

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    Rejecting Miley Cyrus. Okay... Well, still enough producers out there that are willing to work with her anyway.
     
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  7. scrappy

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    'what are you selling? candy/fuel/shoes/jackets/horses/dope/space travel/pop song?,
    oh I see, No, we don't need it, we have plenty candy/fuel/shoes/jackets/horses/dope/space travel/pop song'
     
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  8. Olymoon

    Olymoon MODERATOR Staff Member

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    Unfortunately , this is how it works.
     
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    'xactly this :goodpost:
     
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  10. Bermuda Triangle

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    to miley cyrus is washed littl boy. No twerk no cash no long term talent - sales have been negative for her a long time, like j lo but still go on and on with no talents. bad investment for producer. you wont here this on taylor swift or any real sellers
     
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  11. Riot7

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    I wouldn't read anything into such an offhand comment.

    Because of this thread I did some googling:

    It seems everyone involved tells the story differently. First one says it was a song writing session for a Beyonce song but that they then planned to present the song to Miley Cyrus on a specific week day. Second one says it was a song writing session for a Miley Cyrus song. Third one seems to say it was a coincidence the song was presented to Cyrus.

    What did we learn: sometimes, especially in show business, people make stuff up to make the stories more interesting.

    If I had to guess she probably liked the song and then played it to some of her friends in the business who said 'meh' and there was never any 'shopping' going on.
     
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  12. Smoove Grooves

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    Exactly.
    It was an off-hand comment and not really to be focused on.
     
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  13. Pure Energy

    Pure Energy Producer

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    Not sure if I got this right she works for a publishing company not a label I thought the label paid for everything then got it back as the sales go hmmm the music biz is so weird glad Im a hobbyist music guy everyone has there hand out
    it like walking down beggars lane LOL
     
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