Creating music using illegal content

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  1. RitchieM

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    Interesting indeed
     
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    Blithering is also a firm fave
     
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    Chicago Blues craziness off the pentatonic scale! No VSTs to see here. Move along...
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    Huh?
     
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    Are the bells from 8dio?

    but seriously, I find it hard to believe that problems could arise for a track. notice how they get you when you distribute?

    but there was that the famous Steinberg kidnaping case back in 1994. They courageously forged ahead to release vst in 96.
     
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    Ive shared plenty over the years. What have you on me?! :dunno: To each their own.
     
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    Regarding watermarks, how can it even survive some processing? If it's hidden somewhere in the signal, even a touch of reverb would blur it.

    On another topic, I've been recently made aware you can't copyright a drum beat... so how does this applies to drum packs? (not that use any, just curious)
     
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    I wouldn't be so sure, you should get better informed on the subject

    Generally, every sample taken from already published material will have to go through the clearance process. Speaking of sample packs, you don't have to assume that each of them is royality free, read the contract carefully
     
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    I don't know, I have yet to see actual evidences of that technology in use... If it was the case, you'd see more people demonstrating how it works. To me, it doesn't seem feasible, it's just a scary story some gearslutz boomers are propagating. It's not magic, a signal is a signal, if it's hidden somewhere, you'd see it in the analyzer.

    Imagine you do the same thing to a picture, if you had blur (reverb) or shifting effects (delay) or whatever, you'd greatly alter the picture watermark, now mix many images together (having 20+ layers of instruments), and bury it under even more effects (processing/mixing), I think you'd hardly find traces of the original watermark anywhere... and you'd probably need some impossible algorithm to recognize that distorted iteration of the watermark - and know where to look. Sounds like a pointless and costly endeavour.

    I'm just curious about this topic. Personally, I don't use too many samples, I like sound designing my stuff, and I have plenty of material from my legit purchases.
     
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    I don't get the whole presets issue.
    Presets are just settings on a synth or sampler. I do understand that reselling sample and preset packs is a common issue, but I hope
    that folks are having issues with actual music that used a preset. That's crazy to me. Like really, if one does not want another to use their preset, then don't release it to the internet. And still, at some point, someone else is likely to make a similar sound anyways.

    This knob is turned this way and that one that way. And these sliders are at these levels.
    "Hey, you! You used my preset on that VSTi! I want my royalties!". That's some real bullshit.
    Honestly, the music industry is now filled with thirsty/hungry people who are scrapping to get paid any way possible.

    I really get tired of all these damn loop packs flooding everywhere. Ahh, royalty free, unless you get a major placement. That's why I'm glad that A.I. assisted algorithms are being developed that can dissect sounds into instruments and MIDI.

    Hip Hop was built on sampling. And now everyone is pushing sounds out to people and at the same time trying to protect them (samples, one-shots, presets, chord progressions, etc.).

    A shame that I've got to now alter, reverse engineer, or substitute whatever isn't 100% royalty free. I'm am NOT splitting shit with anyone b/c of a damn one-shot [turned instrument] that came from a loop, preset, or whatever.
     
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    Everyone in this world is free to invent, sell, and buy things.
     
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