CPU at MAX

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  1. Tristan2b

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    Hi all ! Thank you Jedi Master for reading and investigating the MAO mysteries that currently concern me...



    My kontakt's CPU jumps to 100% for no apparent reason (screenshot)

    As you can see, I only use 4 instruments.



    I purged the samples and minimized all kontakt display and usability features.



    I have tried all possible settings:

    . Change of drivers… Asio or Wasapi… Shared or exclusive…

    . Buffers at all sizes… (including kontakt's internal buffer)

    . All sample rates… and in 16, 24, 32, 64 bits… (in stress)

    . Trying multiple sound cards (in desperation)



    Nothing moves. Cubase plays jerky because of kontakt's CPU which is at 100% for just a few notes played. All that I find on the web are very practical tutorials but which strangely have no effect on my case.



    Setup:

    Kontakt 7 used by Cubase 12 on Core i7 and win10-64bits. Alesis Multimix 8 sound card.

    I specify that my libraries are on an internal hard disk different from the internal hard disk where kontakt and cubase are. Of course, it's SSD.



    Incidentally, I noticed that kontakt causes huge latency issues when recording audio. Problems I don't have when using audio in cubase without kontakt. Ugly !



    May the force be with you !

    Bug CPU Kontakt 7.jpg

     
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  3. MileyCyrusIsAfatChipmunk

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    Maybe Try Stand-Alone Kontakt, Try Another DAW... :dunno:
     
  4. reziduchamp

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    Have you tried splitting this Kontakt into 4 separate tracks in Cubase? One for each layer.

    I guess its possible that a single process might be accessing the same core with all 4 sounds. I don't use Kontakt. It might also not be capable of accessing multiple cores, I don't know.

    Another thought is whether a different DAW gives the same results, if that's easy to test. Export MIDI is easy in Cubase. Save the preset and see if you still get full CPU.

    Looks to me like its a Kontakt issue, rather than Cubase or the computer, but I might be wrong... How does the computer show this? Is the Device Manager showing the same 100%?

    That 'Engine Memory' looks huge to me. Is it Kontakt doing that?

    Does it have like an 'undo' function that clogs up history that could be slowing things down?
     
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    ... Ah... Try lowering all of those voices and maximums to 1 on each. See if each instance that says 70%, 33% etc dips

    If this is your issue you'll have to freeze tracks as you go. Make a duplicate that's disabled for fast recall and edits
     
  6. Tristan2b

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    Thank you both for your replies.

    I tried everything you said. Nothing moves. And it was working perfectly few days ago.

    The problem comes probably from my processor who indicates in windows task manager that the performance is blocked at 0.78 Ghz and should be used at his maxium of capacity, 2.90Ghz or near...

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    If it's enabled, I'd try unchecking "Memory->Override preload size".
     
  8. Tristan2b

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    Already done. Thank you.
     
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    check power settings in windows? Some DAWs are not able to bypass them.
     
  10. Tristan2b

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    Already done too. Thank you.

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    Thank you. I never been to BIOS but I know how to go there. What do I have to report from my Bios precisely ? Is there a special screenshot to make ?
     
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    Thanks for your link. I don't really understand everything on it. I would like to try but it's too difficult for me.

    I have now ThrotthleStop. What do you think I might do first with it ?

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  15. midi-man

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    Check your CPU temp it maybe throttling due to excessive heat. Try Core temp utility.
     
  16. Tristan2b

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    Thank you very much for the info. I have now Core Temp but I don't know what to do with. What is my objective with this soft ? Slowdown the temperature of my PC ? But my PC is absolutely cold. Nothing noticed about hot hardware temperature.
     
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    Here is mine. Why is your power 3.0 w?
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    This is the best question of the day !
     
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    maybe VID is wrong set? if you compare with @midi-man ? think you can set this in BIOS too?

    i cant really say what to look for there as different bioses look different.

    maybe you check normal settings in the internet for your CPU? and therefore find out, how your settings are wrong?
     
  21. reziduchamp

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    Starting to look like a CPU issue. It looks like its running ridiculously low, like it might have fried...

    Possibly you could try replacing heatsink on the CPU, if that went crap...

    Another idea might be to swap it out if you have a trade shop like we do in the UK - CEX (Computer Exchange). They would sell this kind of processor stupidly cheap now.

    https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail...D=454f09d9ece948c4897b421131ae5f0e&position=7

    Another thought might be something disconnected on the motherboard like the fans. Maybe the CPU fan isn't spinning and cooling it properly or the tower fans, so it fell into low performance because performance is too hot.

    Could be that some cores of the 4 cores have fried. There looks like an indication in the Frequency 'x8.0' which is way below the x47 example below but I've no idea what that means...

    Another thought about CPU is that there are sometimes these extra power sockets that need plugging in for CPU power. If that hasn't been plugged in from build and you only have 8 pins instead of 12 it could have been getting stressed for a long time and finally given up.
     
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