Convert Kontakt .nki to .sfz or Mach5?

Discussion in 'Kontakt' started by voidSeeker, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. voidSeeker

    voidSeeker Noisemaker

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2016
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    5
    Hey guys, I am wondering if the above can be done automatically. I am wanting to convert existing Kontakt libraries into .sfz or Mach5 format to get them into Falcon for manipulation.

    I know that in cracked Kontakt, you can save out protected libraries into .wav format. I am looking for an automatic convertor so I don't have to re-map all the samples by hand (tedious).

    Thanks for any help!

    (Sorry for the double post, couldn't figure out hot to delete threads...)
     
  2.  
  3. TinTin

    TinTin Producer

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2011
    Messages:
    503
    Likes Received:
    115
    the latest version of Chickensys Sytemtranslator can do it for kontakt libs but for kontakt player libs there are no solution , and would needs to be made by hand .
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Interesting Interesting x 1
    • List
  4. Kloud

    Kloud Producer

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2016
    Messages:
    175
    Likes Received:
    103
    Location:
    Here & There
    Always remember that many of these sounds are optimised nature and dependent upon scripting.
    Most of these types of conversions are a waste of time in my own opinion because they don't convert what is needed. Example woulld be the old giga format conversions for Kontakt itself that sound fairly rubbish as they are not meant for Kontakt. Also remember that .nki & .ncw was created specifically for use in Kontakt alone and nothing else. What formats exactly are you converting?
    Many Kontakt libraries are .WAV format anyway.
    Just import the WAV files you need :dunno:
    Probably won't sound very good anyway.
    If it .ncw -> Kontakt itself will convert it for you to .WAV.
    Another example of why IO say they don't sound that great is that Mach 5 for example will import .NKI directly but when you do they don't sound that great when you do as you don't get the scripted elements etc
    Personally I think you'd be better of just going and sourcing your own material in appropriate format rather than wasting a load of time converting something that in all probability won't sound that great.
    I could have totally misunderstood what you are aiming at though :yes::bow:
     
  5. TinTin

    TinTin Producer

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2011
    Messages:
    503
    Likes Received:
    115
    sorry Kloud but you are little bit wrong too .

    thats correct but ..

    yes sure only conversation does not sounds that good because you needs a little bit knowledge and edit those instruments that they are sounds good . and giga format has nothing to do with that its not meant for Kontakt . Samples within those librays are same and samples are Samples , it depends on what you can do with it to rebuild it that i can sounds good . and believe me it can be made sounds good .

    thats correct but nki are just an instrument to load in kontakt , ncw are nothing more than converted soundfiles to NI´s own losless format .

    as the op said he dont want remapping every single file , just an example try to map an instrument which has only 1000 samples , than you will know how time expensive it would be .

    again said it depends what you make out of them .

    yes you understand it wrong because the op will import those into Falcon without the needs to remapping the samples to build and edit and manipulate it in the way he want it .
     
  6. btc1750

    btc1750 Noisemaker

    Joined:
    May 20, 2015
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    6
    what TinTin said is true

    I have done a few manual-conversions
    and so far Extreme Sample Converter is the best for that
    use VSTi converter, it renders the library/nki to sfz+wav, you need to put the nki in sampler mode

    I advice against automatic-conversion
    it is because there are tons of parameters(eg. volume,turning in mapping editor) will not get converted correctly/simply get ignored
    such rendering is the only way to go

    I always study the script first, then bypass all scripts & FXs for rendering
    and emulate the script in my own way
     
  7. fiction

    fiction Platinum Record

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2011
    Messages:
    795
    Likes Received:
    166
    EXSC does it by re-sampling rather than actually reading the nki itself, right?
    I have yet to see an nki decryptor for Kontakt >4.2 files, although this should certainly be possible... :dunno:
     
  8. TinTin

    TinTin Producer

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2011
    Messages:
    503
    Likes Received:
    115
    no , you have two ways , converting it directly or resampling . the problem are ESC are very outdated and not updated since an very long time . it does not support Kontakt 4/5 files and or latest instruments files in general .

    again as i said it in my first answere in this post , Chickensys Translator 6 latest version can do this . even if i dont like this company Translator 6 are the only Translator Software which is still alive and gets updated as well .
     
  9. Kloud

    Kloud Producer

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2016
    Messages:
    175
    Likes Received:
    103
    Location:
    Here & There
    Well that's great I'm just going of my own experience of some of the Giga libraries with GS programming etc that translate pretty rubbish as the velocity curves, release samples, cross-fades, etc list goes on don't translate at all. However i'm no expert on translating Giga and this could be a totally different thing. As i said i didn't quite understand a few parts but hey if it's gonna work well then great. From my own experience the translations i've heard in the past have been somewhat lacking. However maybe I just experienced the bad ones. Never really spent loads of time in depth doing that but dabbled. If it gonna work then great. Maybe you can like publish the method in detail so that others can learn. That would be cool I guess
     
  10. Resonator

    Resonator Ultrasonic

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2015
    Messages:
    70
    Likes Received:
    30
    Another limited way of doing similar is resampling with samplerobot, need to use virtual audio and virtual midi cables (midi saves time and lets it do it automatically). but an advantage is that you get to sample the kontakt instrument as you want it to sound and not be limited just to the original sound of the samples. formats you can export to include sfz.
     
  11. fiction

    fiction Platinum Record

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2011
    Messages:
    795
    Likes Received:
    166
    Well then you're very welcome to show me how. Any nki originating from an encrypted library cannot be read by CST6, I have just double-checked, no matter if re-saved or not.
     
  12. TinTin

    TinTin Producer

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2011
    Messages:
    503
    Likes Received:
    115
    if you had read the first post again there it is written already .

     
  13. btc1750

    btc1750 Noisemaker

    Joined:
    May 20, 2015
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    6
    direct conversion or resampling
    "rendering" in my last post = resampling

    samplerobot is just like a cut-down version of ESC
    ESC doesn't need any virtual cable

    although only K1-3 are in the official supported format list
    I confirm that ESC supports Kontakt 4.0
    and probably up to K4.1

    ========================
    btw there is a trick for encrypted library
    copying sample groups from an encrypted library to an empty nki will make direct-conversion possible
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2017
  14. phloopy

    phloopy Rock Star

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2011
    Messages:
    2,049
    Likes Received:
    467
    Location:
    Home
    I agree to that.

    It´s a messy converter to work with, but still the best if you have figured out how to use it!
     
Loading...
Similar Threads - Convert Kontakt Mach5 Forum Date
Convert Kontakt 5 to .sfz OR Mach5? Samplers Feb 14, 2017
Decompiling Kontakt Libraries & Converting To Soundfont or DirectWave Kontakt Aug 29, 2015
Any way you can convert ncw files into wav files in Kontakt? Kontakt Dec 7, 2014
Converting Nexus Presets to Kontakt nkm Video Samplers Nov 21, 2014
Convert Refill To Use With Kontakt Software Sep 24, 2014
Loading...