Surely I can't be the only person working offline and I don't know how many people would use Cherry Audio offline but these Companies piss me off when they won't let you buy their stuff. Its just mental.

Latest Cherry FM Synth looks really good and I'd love to use it but they don't want our money for some reason. I just don't get it. They're so cheap its barely worth protecting and affordable for many of us.

 

Can you not go online with your other computer and buy it then move it over to your music computer?

 

If you want to own it, buy it, and wait a week until it shows up on the sister site and use the R2R version.

 

Is an Internet connection required to use this plugin?
You do need to create a Cherry Audio account and connect your computer to the Internet to activate Surrealistic MG-1 Plus.
Once it is activated, you can use Surrealistic MG-1 Plus offline.

https://cherryaudio.kayako.com/article/525-is-an-internet-connection-required-to-use-this-plugin

 

No it doesn't work. It authorises the machine its on I believe or they'd have told me that I'm sure... I contacted them asking why they can't do something like the PA way on a USB dongle, or serials etc but they just added it to the pile of the same request - I assume that means there's others that haven't bought the plugins if they can't use them either.

Cheers for the idea though, I wish that was even possible, but even buying it and having a cracked version its going to be stuck on any bugs in that version. There's a Moog that hasn't been put up yet I'd love to try too.

Honestly, the Space Delay at $9 on sale, why wouldn't I want to pay that? I have the UAD version that I can't use, the x version can't be authorised offline as far as I can tell (got to wait for an iLok that still hasn't arrived to see if I can jack that somehow) and I stopped using VST2 and 3 together because Ableton doesn't like it so I can't use my £1000 of UAD dongle software either (because they still haven't created VST3 for the dongles yet as far as I'm aware).

 

As I just posted, I think you have to put that computer online, then it will work offline. Same with UADx crap. I don't want to put my UAD Dongle online ever again. I nearly made that mistake for a stream and realised before the piece of shit updated itself to the latest version and caused endless headaches for days or weeks. I'm stuck on v 9.1.10 or something because it was the last working version. I updated to try something by Moog and the whole system fell to shit. Wasn't just me either, someone else online had the same issue and we got pretty much ignored. The only solution was downgrading the dongle...

Then there's the endless other issues I don't want to have to deal with like disabling Windows updates and everything else. Its just so much easier keeping a stable system.

Cheers for the advice though Beat... I wish they'd just make things possible offline. Its stupid not to use serials etc when they already got cracked anyway.

 

Unfortunately there's other plugins like the Moog that aren't up there yet and its always going to be early versions with bugs that need fixing.

Like I said, I can't be the only person who can't use these though...

EDIT... The last thing of theirs to show up was months ago. Even if it showed up soon it will be a buggy version, so its a big risk to commit to buggy software that I can't swap for legit, because its just not possible... So the best solution is avoid Cherry... Crazy policy IMO

 

It is definitely an overly paranoid protection for such cheap plugins. Im not a huge Cherry Audio fan. I like their eight voice, even though the GForce sounds better, just because I like the way the sequencer works on the Cherry Audio one better. But I always notice weird aliasing on Cherry synths.

You are probably one of the few who can't use them though, cause most of their target consumers probably aren't super serious, so probably aren't as likely to have an offline machine for production. I could be wrong though.

 

Yeah I've read a lot about aliasing. I never notice any issues or it might be adding something that I actually like instead of a super clean sound. The Oberhausen sounds great despite eating the CPU and GForce is good too, so we don't exactly need Cherry, but I seem to like their sound for whatever weird reason

 

the easiest way to get it work offline if you already decided to buy it is super simple really. Buy, supply the license to those that shall not be named, wait a bit. Bam, can use on offline machine. It shouldn't be that long since it's already broken once.

Spoiler: secret

you can even sell your copy after that.

 

Thanks for sharing your experience @reziduchamp!

I was reading up on a musician who was also having problems and he said "stop updating" at the end of the conversation. In the end, everyone has to decide autonomously who or which company he gives his money to. It's not like we are forced to support every business model and buy every product. Of course, already the operating system Windows 10 or now 11, which occupies us with forced updates is very undemocratic. After having a timeout error after an update, I took my computer offline. After some time, however, this was very inconvenient and I made updates again, the error was then gone.

Cherry's business model is to save as much money as possible and sell as much as possible. I tested their plugins and found them not so great, then deleted them all and installed older 32 bit plugins instead on a 32 bit DAW (Synapse Audio Orion) in a 64 bit system.
When it happens to you like the independent updating with subsequent errors, you are pretty annoyed and stressed. Sometimes you say to yourself I'm going offline with my PC. From mistakes one becomes wise, but mostly pays with cash coin on it. The digital prison is becoming more and more real.

To disable the Windows Update service in Services Manager, please follow the steps below:

1. Press Windows key + R. Type services.msc, then hit Enter.
2. Search for Windows Update.
3. Right-click on Windows Update, then select Properties.
4. Under General tab, set the Startup type to Disabled.
5. Click Stop.
6. Click Apply, and then click OK.
7. Restart your computer.

 

I have almost all the Cherry Audio synths.
No problem with the activation.
On my laptop computer I have activated only once their plugins, here at home.
I use them everyday in nomad on this same laptop in a hospital with children without any need of a connection.
Where is the problem?

 

Yeah its because so many people commit to it that it has become normal and that's scary. I had this chat with a couple of people, where one quetioned me still using cash and the other is like me. If your card suddenly fails for any reason, out of your control, how do you get home etc? Cash is a plan b, although more and more places don't even accept it, which came off the back of using Covid as an excuse and normalising it... What happens if you upset the wrong person and they get your credit cut off? No food... I don't understand the mindset of letting other people control our lives, but that's a different issue. Controlling our music should be entirely our choice. We should never let people decide if we can make music today, this week or if we have to wait for an update next year that unbreaks what they royally fucked up... And this is where being offline gives you a reasonable chance of having a stable system.

But like you say its a balancing act of a working system against new plugins etc. I think its common sense if you are serious about music to not be hostage. Coming back to Cherry Audio, unless they create an offline authorisation its just a big no for me but it seems like I'm in the minority. There's probably a lot to be said in all of that, like how professional are they? There's a lot of chat about aliasing and poor quality sound etc, so it seems like they act like the company makes toys, not pro gear. So maybe its good that they won't let me use their stuff?

I've unsubscribed from the emails now, so hopefully I won't get distracted by them again

 

I don't know if I've misunderstood you here or you just haven't bothered reading back, but how have you activated your Cherry stuff on the computer that never goes online? I got the idea that its not possible from them directly, recently and way back when the 106 came out. They don't seem to allow a computer that has never gone online to authorise a plugin.

Are you saying that you've managed it somehow? It sounds like you connected the laptop at some stage before you were able to use all of them.

 

As I said I have activated the plugins at home, so being online. And I use them as I said on the same computer in another place, being offline.

Of course the activation is made online, but only once. To use the plugin later on the same computer being offline, there is no problem.

But don't misunderstand me, I'm not denying the fact that it is perhaps impossible to activate offline.

 

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These days it seems thats majority of the entire target market. The amount of garbage out there compared to when the market was more serious (back in the early 2000's), now everything has been made so easy, the market is becoming swamped with "producer tools" and "chord generators" for people who 1) dont know what an actual producer does and 2) haven't even the slightest idea on how to make a song without using sample packs and premade garbage..

Cherry Audio is fast food, I agree // Roland Cloud is farm to table

 

Is Roland stable now? The Witches didn't rate it a while back and I've heard its a CPU hog as well

 

You see, sometimes going out and getting fast food is more desirable than paying a lot of money to look at a pretty restaurant and be handed the freshest ingredients after 3 hours of waiting. Sure the fast food is a little greasy, but it works. Would I like the freshest, most organic ingredients, well sure, but i'm also fine just getting the leftovers for free. to answer your question I use the dco-106

 

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Roland Cloud versions stupidly default to CPU hog performance. There is an option in the menu to make them "run optimized".

That is the stupidest decision they could make. They should load optimized, and then have the option for better bouncing quality. Like every plugin that has oversampling capability. They don't start up at 8X setting. That's on top of the lackluster performance they created by adding so much bloat and additional features.

 

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is this synth count as a Virtual Analog or just modern digital synth like Serum etc.