I use Ableton Live for a long time and I always pirated it. I see that many used Push 2 without Live license is for sale for a good price. If I buy one, can I use it with pirated Live on PC, or I will need to own a license?

 

yes this works. But I believe push 3 standalone is not working without a proper license

 

....search the forum and you will find this has been asked and answered a gazillion times already!

 

No problem with Push 1 or 2, I frequently update Ableton from the sister site. I think Push updates are baked-in to Ableton updates but I'm not sure - though mine has been updated automatically a couple of times with no issues.

 

Yes, they have been integrated into Live. But with the latest update I've i nstalled, that has changed. The Push driver is now an own piece of software who's interface is living in the system tray. But that doesn't matter though.

On the Ableton website, Push 3 can be purchased with a Live license. The minimum "Intro" Version is bundled for free.

I'm pretty shure it'll work with the "shareware" version on Sister.

 

Last edited: Jul 8, 2023

Push and Push standalone is a little confusing.

Ableton calls it Push every other human being calls it Push 3.
When you buy a Push 3 standalone this version has two modes in one box, 'standalone' and 'control Live'
The latter works with Live 'shareware' versions just like a push 2, but has some new features. First and foremost MPE.

 

Last edited: Jul 23, 2023

So does that mean one can use the Push 3 "controller" version without an "official" ableton live licence?

 

A. If you buy a $2.000-"standalone"- version you'll definitely need a full version of the Live software (Standard or Suite).
The first thing this computer does (and in it's essence it is just a computer with an attached push controller) is downloading a legit registered version from your Ableton account. (and intro is senseless imho)

B. If you buy a "non-standalone" version you can use a "shareware" version like with the Phush 2.

So yes.

If you want to test it, just order the Controller Version. If you don't like it -> 30 days unconditional money back guarantee.

But IDK why one should buy a controller for that price tag. Where I live you can buy used Push 2 for ~300€ on ebay.
Most of the push 2 where never really used, thus they are sold as "mint" or "like new" mostly.

 

It works but will probably end up collecting dust on your desk.