Hello
I need to build a new computer as mine is too old... Im searching a cpu for 250-300 euros that will be good for audio processing and VST.
I find the i5 10600. Is it good for audio and have good latency?

I also searching which chipset is suitable for my needs? type of MB...

Thanks for your advice

 

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_value_available.html

• AMD Ryzen 7 3700X $272.99

would be my weapon of choise
8 core vs 6
as long your DAW supports up to 8 cores the ryzen is the better choice.

The intel is better for gaming and for single core Applications
(Hackintosh builds too)


On the other hand intel mainboards are a bit costly at the moment
(cheaps 4 channel RAM are
AMD AM 4 ASRock A320M Pro4 R2.0 63,07
Intel 1200 Gigabyte B460M DS3H 77,90)

 

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i think this is a good buy but it's released at the end of the month. £95

Intel Pentium G6600, S 1200, Comet Lake, 2 Cores, 4 Threads, 4.2GHz, 4MB Cache, 58W

 

If you go with Intel. Get the i5-10600k as it punches above it's weight so-to-speak.
As mentioned by Polomo, the AMD Ryzen 7 is a very good choice. The other AMD choice would be the Ryzen 5 3600.

Which ever CPU choice you make, keep in mind that memory plays a big part in latency. Not just hard drive & CPU.
Tighter timings are the key. With 4 or 8 channel ECC this is standard. With non-ECC Dual channel you need to match memory with the CPU using the QVL (qualified vendors list) for the motherboard. Memory not on the list may or not work. Just not ensured to work.

Ideally something like 16-16-16-35 (currently around $129US for 16GB), 16-16-16-38, etc.. as an example.

My system has 64GB of quad channel Registered ECC with timings of 13-13-13-32.

 

vs

... are not suitable for audio production nowadays.

 

An excellent processor, I got one at the tail end of last year with an Asus X570 board and couldn't be happier.

 

my intel celeron 3.5ghz cpu build is arriving tomorrow. with 32gb ram, 500gb m.2,Gigabyte Intel B460 D2V Micro-ATX Motherboard

will let you know how it goes

 

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The Ryzen 7 3700X is a much better deal. Even the 3800X is around 300 euros now. If you wanna go cheap, pair any of these with a B550 mobo for 100-150 euros and you got a pci-e gen.4 workstation for 400-450 euros. Add some 16gb ram @ 3600mhz for another 75-80 euros and you 're done.

Sorry mate, this is for office and even then it's overpriced. For the same money you get the Ryzen 5 1600AF which is a 6 core, 12 threads cpu and it just kills the particular Intel cpu (and many others more expensive from Intel) in everything. 100 pounds for a 2 core is kinda absurd. Oh and that Celeron with 32 gb ram, one thing is certain, you will run out of cpu much sooner than ram lol.

 

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yes Im interrested by the 3700X I just feel bad that it need a PCI4 4X graphic card and it's 200 euros more but if that's the way
Im looking at Amazon they have good facilities for payment in 4x or more..

 

You are wrong but np, it's for the better heheh. You can put anything there. Pci-e slots are back compatible. I have built perhaps 15 machines with pci-e gen.4 (X570, i haven't got my hands on B550 yet) and only one had a pci-e 4 GPU, a Radeon RX 5700XT (Sapphire Nitro+). After all, the 1080,1080 Super and 1080TI from Nvidia outperform the Radeon 5700XT and they are still pci-e 3.
So, keep this in mind. The pci-e gen.4 slot(s) are better suited for fast storage not GPUs atm.
Cheers

 

I thought the main thing with daws is core power not number?
btw i bought the Celeron cause I couldn't afford any other comet lake CPU. Will upgrade at the end of the month

 

the problem I can't solve is that I have an old MOTU Firewire only port and so I think it will need a PCIe card to plug my audio interface but the new MB only have pci e 4x ... How can I plug my sound card?

 

If you go with an Intel Z490, W480 or AMD B450, B550 motherboard, you will have the same limitation of 1 PCIe x16 slot or 2 PCIe x8 slots.

Any PCIe x4 or x1 full featured (not just for video linking) Firewire card will do. Prices are still hovering around $50US to $60US.
The 400/800MBS limitation is perfect for those slots.

 

Firewire cheapest on market :
400
https://geizhals.de/digitus-ds-33203-2-a1679451.html?hloc=at&hloc=de 12,13€
800
https://geizhals.de/digitus-ds-30203-2-a1404920.html?hloc=at&hloc=de 26,60€

 

Radeon with PCI-E 4 on Ryzen is even better, because you can run it with only 8 lanes and have another 8 Lanes for your ad-in cards(Like Firewire And More).
This is a plus compared to the intel platform and something to consider!

Don't go to cheap for a firewire card if you want a flawless driver experience.
My friend from Berlin had a hard time finding a good FW ad-in card, at last, after 5-6 return's, he paid around 60 - 70 bugs to get a proper one.

I am also in the last phase of buying a new PC(Waiting For Black Friday), my quadcore computers getting old and slow, even my mid class phone is faster for web browsing.

Good Luck For Chasing Good Prices!

 

Hmmm...Let's see... The number pci-e lanes a pci-e slot runs is configured through the bios, that is when the slot can be configured. Not all mobos can do this neat trick. Especially the cheap ones. Also the number of lanes isn't determined by the pci-e gen.
If your example has a pci-e gen4 Radeon in order to maintain bandwidth at 8 lanes, it is sort of irrelevant if the card is gen 4 or gen 3. So i don't see how a gen.4 Radeon will give a benefit.
Cheers

 

You will buy a pci-e Firewire add-on card. They go for about 20 dlrs. Be sure to check what chip the firewire card you 'll buy has and what chips are compatible with your MOTU. Firewire MOTUs have been known to have problems with their drivers when certain firewire chips are present.

Errr nope, core clock plays a significant role but is secondary nowadays. Also the Ryzen 5 1600AF is much faster than your Celeron in everything, check the web always before you buy anything mate. Mainstream Intel atm is only for hardcore gamers and this is only for the top i7 and i9 cpus. The rest of them, i5,i3,Celeron and PentiumG are far overpriced and outpaced. Any buyer other than a pro gamer will build AMD.
Cheers

 

oh okay cool. Yeah I'm sure everything is better than the celeron lol. I set up the build yesterday, it's extremely fast at loading things. and then... diva happensthe celeron is pretty much the same as my 10 year old E6600 (2M Cache, 3.06 GHz, 2 threads)
but the main point was to get started. also i think amd/intel is more of a personal thing tbh, besides don't you need a gpu as well? would bump up the overall price. the Intel Core i5 10600K is my next purchase

 

i asked a similar question a week ago:

https://audiosex.pro/threads/pc-upgrade-i7-7700k-vs-i7-9700k.54494/page-2#post-487697

many suggest the amd

 

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And I'm still using my trusty I7 2600k

I guess its a dinosaur just like me