Behringer CMD MM-1 with Live 9

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  1. suefreeman

    suefreeman Producer

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    I need help to setup my new Behringer CMD MM-1

    i'm using Live 9 on a win7 pc.

    it's up and running (controller's notes and cc are received in live).


    I can easily map everything to the first 4 tracks.
    But i would like to be able to jump to the next/previous 4 tracks with the left/right buttons.

    If nothing like this is available,
    I want to take the time to learn and make it myself.

    But i really don't know where to start ( Remote Script , Max4Live, others , ??? )

    Here's a picture to help you understand.
     

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  3. venem

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    M4L.api [select next/previous/master track]

    demo..

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  4. suefreeman

    suefreeman Producer

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    About the script above :

    Thx a lot, nice demo ( need to click twice to navigate though ... )
    I'll learn from that. With that i have something to start learning M4L.

    About CMD MM-1 :

    Found out that theres a download for a remote control for ableton live.

    But really no luck trying to use it.

    It's been a week of reading, testing, modifying, still no luck.

    Anyone using both ( Ableton + MM-1 ) ???
     
  5. Vince Bramich

    Vince Bramich Ultrasonic

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    not sure if this helps but launchpads have the ability to scroll through tracks in ableton.
    maybe have a look at the mapping for that, it may be useful.
     
  6. suefreeman

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    I'm better off with the remote script design for my device.

    after this full week of learning ... here the state of things
    2 options (these scripts are supposed to almost do what i want):
    -Factory script (CMD_MM1)
    -script from DJtechTools (CMD_MM1_RealSession)

    But both generate errors in Ableton 'log.txt' , EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT SELECTED in Preferences// Midi/Sync
    It might be compatibility problem with python or Live9. (updated since release of script)

    Here's the error code (from the factory remote script) :
    Code:
    9768 ms. RemoteScriptError: Traceback (most recent call last):
    
    9771 ms. RemoteScriptError:   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
    9772 ms. RemoteScriptError:   File "MIDI Remote Scripts\CMD_MM1\__init__.py", line 3, in <module>
    9772 ms. RemoteScriptError:     
    9772 ms. RemoteScriptError: from MM1 import MM1
    9773 ms. RemoteScriptError:   File "MIDI Remote Scripts\CMD_MM1\MM1.py", line 27, in <module>
    9773 ms. RemoteScriptError:     
    9773 ms. RemoteScriptError: from _Framework.TrackEQComponent import TrackEQComponent # Class representing a track's EQ, it attaches to the last EQ device in the track
    9774 ms. RemoteScriptError: ImportError
    9774 ms. RemoteScriptError: : 
    9774 ms. RemoteScriptError: No module named TrackEQComponent
    9774 ms. RemoteScriptError: 
    
    I removed every gear & unnecessary driver + reset preference and default template in ableton.
    the errors appeared instally after adding the script.
     
  7. suefreeman

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    CMD_MM1_RealSession is working now.
    Nothing to do with script.
    Had to remove and re-install Live9

    10/10 for CMD_MM1_RealSession
     
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    I found out the reason i struggled with CMD_MM1_RealSession installation

    --- VERY IMPORTANT ---
    Your startup set (default template at startup in ABLETON ) must have at least 4 tracks,
    otherwise the script will crash and wont load
    meaning no red box and you'll get error ( in log.txt file ) ,
    even if ableton is receiving midi signals (note & CC )
    --- VERY IMPORTANT ---

    Wow ... I've lost a hole week figuring this out ...

    And for the MM-1 Factory Script,
    Behringer wrote me today saying they're waiting for the script's update ...
     
  9. Vince Bramich

    Vince Bramich Ultrasonic

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    Good to hear you got it sorted.

    How do you find the controller now it's working correctly?
    I'm interested in one for myself
     
  10. suefreeman

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    I'm not using it as a dj ...

    Script :
    the script for ableton [ CMD_MM1_RealSession ] is nice
    the rotary button are automatically assign to 1st 4 parameters of of 1st device on the track
    So if you group your instruments & fx's you don't have to use the midi map
    Instead you assign whatever you want to the macros , save your rack, so now you can recall the rack AND the macro mapping will still be there and still be auto-assigned to the controller ( if it is in the 1st spot of the device window )
    Rest of the buttons are Cue=solo track, button 1-2 on each track= fader select A-B, and the middle small square button toggle between device view/clip overview

    The gear - i like it a lot
    had it for $60 , brand new , can't wait for the store to receive LC-1 ( hopefully at same price )
    i found a store selling them for the lower price allowed !!!

    IMPORTANT Facts :
    No power switch !! Had to build one (7$- could be done for $2)
    The paint on the fader is already gone one track 1 after a week - not really using it but test scipt sometimes ...
    The fader is a little to easy for me ... as i said im not a dj.
    The lighted buttons make a little click when you press them (you like it or not)

    If you buy it and intend to use it with Deckadance ... remember Deckadance is not available in x64 vst (will test it with jbridge)

    Rest of CDM Series :
    None of them have sensitivity (velocity) they send note on/off only (CC's are 0-127 has they should ...)
    The factory scripts for the CDM series DONT WORK for Live 9 ...
    So ill wait for an update before i buy the LC-1
     
  11. Vince Bramich

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    yeah I wasn't planning on using it for DJing either, I prefer old fashioned hardware for that.

    It appears to solve my problem of running out of faders on my MIDI keyboard.
    I think I'll give it a crack. cheers :)
     
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  13. suefreeman

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    So nice to see you contacting me here !
    Thx for the info. Altough i'm still on win7 and inbetween changing that old computer of mine.
    I don't really need the cmd mm-1 anymore (except for the crossfader) since i bought an APCmini that doest perfectly what i need.
    let's keep in touch ...
     
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