BEHOLD THE NEW MAC PRO 2019

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  1. twoheart

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    Aaaaaand welcome back :wink::wink::wink:
     
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    There are different levels of disapproval for the way Apple, develops & markets product.

    It has always been somewhat pricey to own a Mac if you wanted to do anything other than simply use what came with the computer. Add-ons anyone?

    If Apple actually made an all-around solid computer at a reasonable, not cheap, reasonable price, the so-called haters would shuffle off to Buffalo.

    Add-On:
    This was youtube click bait. Interesting nonetheless;

    Apples Dishonesty - 2019 Mac Pro & Logic's "Performance"
     
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    the discussion goes the same all over forums and facebook groups :
    - the pros are happy ( they've been asking for it for years ) ( except for the screen stand though )
    - the wannabe pros / bedroom "producers" / **think they have an idea what they're doing** are bashing what they don't understand and/or cannot afford
    - the trolls are posting the same memes /pictures of a cheese grater...

    the price of a single HDX Avid card is almost 4 000 € ( and it's only the card, it's supposed to be linked to an interface which is as expensive )

    maybe it will speak to those who have little remain of brain, and a bit of humility.

    for years, a lot of pros in the music industry have been using custom racks - with windows - but they are sometimes way more expensive than this.

    passed a point, you invest in pro gear because it's an industry, you're an actor of this industry, and if you want to compete,
    you have to up your game and stop being an amateur.
    it requires experience, talent, knowledge, ... and tools.

    the pros have been asking for such a machine from Apple for YEARS.
    now they've got it.

    what questions me the most is not the price, it's the possibility of a CPU upgrade, because I think the next years are gonna be crazy like we've never seen before in terms of performances.
    that said, 28 cores gives you a bit of time to see things coming.. ( not to mention the 1,5 To of RAM - which I expected, to be honest )
     
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  4. tzzsmk

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    what questions me most is apple solution to use wireless apple keyboard and mouse with macpro being in rack in machine room :banned:
     
  5. twoheart

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    It's only money @raven .
    Sheer money never makes happy in the long run. So won't a massively overpriced piece of hardware.
    If one isn't able to make music, the Mac Pro won't help. Not for any amount of $$$
     
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    If you are a company in an industry where you'll get the job if you say you can finish it in 7 days and you won't get the job when you require 8 days, it either makes or breaks your business. And don't think for a minute there isn't anyone out there who could do your job in the same quality in less time if he owns such a monster. That's of course more true in the movie business than in the music business, but time is money in pretty much every business. It's called Mac Pro and not Mac Semi-Pro or Mac Hobbyist for a reason.
     
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    i sure know money don't make you happy that's not my point
    what i'm trying to say is there will always be buyers for expensive stuff wether they make something out of it or no that's another matter
    where i live most people who own Porches hardly drive over 80klm per hour they get it for "prestige"
     
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    So, they requested to have a mainboard which is capable of 1.5tb RAM but only has 32gb of RAM standard? :dunno:

    What is the point of such a system? Who's going to buy exactly this and why? :unsure: (And this is really the most interesting question :excl:)

    It must involve a lot of feelings. A technical reason to pay 4500€ more for this system compared to another for 1500€ with the same specs is nonexisting.

    It seems the Pros are requesting some more exciting feelings for their employees and themself but nothing else. :drummer:
     
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    It were the words "lucky folks" in the sentence that made me wonder :winker:
    OK, but does it make everyone sitting "behind" the Mac Pro a Pro? Or does an idiot sitting behind a Mac Pro most likely stays being an idiot?
    btw nothing against the machine. If one gets return on this investment, everything is fine.

    It's the same with the most expensive golf club, racing car, foto camera etc. ... A lot of people seem to think they transform to a pro with spending money for pro gear.
     
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    looool get the fuck out of here. $999 for a stand? I had to rewind three times to make sure I didn't misunderstand

    I just changed my mind about Apple. I used to disdain the way they charge roughly double for the same hardware you'd get elsewhere, but now I see the genius of it. Through some herculean marketing effort they managed to cultivate a demographic in the center of a Venn diagram with people stupid enough to pay for this and people rich enough to pay for this.

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    dude, stop trolling.

    and if you're not, and you don't see the logic in being able to upgrade a basic configuration, you definitely need some help.

    have a good day.
     
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    Jahahaha. The logic is that they are going from 32gb to 1.5tb. This makes sense. If my 32gb are used, I need more...much more because it only makes sense from probably 750gb upwards price-wise. :hahaha:

    This is what pro companys do. Buying 32gb and upgrade their pc if they grow from 0-100 in no time. "We only need 32gb for now...but in 1 year, I can tell you it's worth it boss"

    This is great. :thanks:
     
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    32GB ram is indeed a joke, 48GB should be minimum,
    those cpus support 6-channel memory, so 4x8GB config doesn't even utilize that;
    speaking of costs in real business, there are so many problems with Windows 10 (and Microsoft will not release any new LTSC in following 3 years) it might be cheaper to spend "additional" 40000$ on Mac Pro rather than annually paying 40000$ for an average IT technician (example of very modest less than 16$/hour rate, while the real AV IT gurus often charge even 10x more!)
     
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    You can speculate on this. Fact is that there is also a "windows 10 pro for workstations" to mention this maybe. Some companys use those systems on their daily work basis (some of their servers are used from all of us all day long :yes:). I would not make a general differentiation between those systems if we're talking about the pro environment. At least not in terms of stability. Stability eitherway has also a lot to do with hardware. But what one can talk about is the subject area where a system is used in. This makes a lot more sense but then it's only a "it depends on..."-question again.

    I have no problems with their macpro thing. But it makes absolutely no sense to build a 30m³ concrete fundament and then build a doghouse on it and hope that it someday makes sense to upgrade it into a skyscraper. :no:
     
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    I’m a pro and I’m not happy at all: 12k just for the basic configuration means that for a ready to go workstation (ext hdd’s, apps, &stuff) it can easily go up to 20K. Be a pro means also keep company expenses under control. Now, I would like to know how many pros have the budget (20K) for just 1 computer, (yes, maybe the Puff Daddy studio...)
    Talking about the specs: I cant see anything inside this grater that justify the stratospheric price.

    No: I’m not happy
     
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    your not happy because you can't afford it.

    you're also confusing expenses and investment, so let me question the "pro" thing :facepalm:
     
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    Sorry for not being a successful millionaire like you, I hope you don't mind if I give my miserable opinion
     
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    It is one's profession.
     
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    Blingbling VIP Luxury

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    Seems to be some misunderstanding of the word pro, and not just with you.

    If it is one's main job that pays the bills, one is a professional. It is one's profession.
     
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