I thought you'd retired?

Go on, tell us how it's because nobody understands THE NOTES. We'll be all (fingers in) ears.

 

Jesus man, get a grip and stop scoring from Andrew Tate.

 

thank you @Haze and @taskforce ! Those are kind words and good advices.
I'll follow them as much as i can. Keep my mind open for future partnerships and, if i can spare some money, paying engineers too for better mix and master. Also try to be more consistent with my releases

 

This is not even the problem of the west. Our problem is greed, the same problem that early settlers tried to escape from and separate from England. History repeats. Companies want to increase profit and have hoards of money, so they have to devalue people and craft. I remember the Louisiana Purchase...classic story of deception with force as a backup plan. This is what's happening to our work force in America. Trading time (increasing in value) for dollars (decreasing in value).

Giving a woman "power", I don't see it here. Women have equal rights to live and achieve goals...and they should. Not every woman is going to have a husband, so why should they be cast lower? A married couple make their own agreement, and hopefully stay true to it. Power is not a gender problem here, its an ego problem.

This is way off topic though.

 

Is this a serious question?

If so, getting back to the thread question it depends.
Both have a vision. If the vision differs it is likely the producer has been paid by someone to get a specific result regardless of the artist who is probably under contract. If the artist and the producer are the same person, there is no difference, regardless of whether it is a bedroom or a large studio. The engineering knowledge aspect is best suited for a different thread. If you are not FOSTER, then you'll get back to the original topic and not derail your own thread.

 

I don't particularly like name throwing. But i also don't care very much for being exactly politically correct and i find woke culture very pretentious too. So just for my love of the guy's work, the producer's name i was talking about is John Anthony. He's hailed by many as a prog rock innovator as he used totally unorthodox ways to achieve certain atmospheres and weird sounds almost folie design and very avant garde. Among other things, he did at least the first 4 Van Der Graaf albums and numerous Peter Hamill solos, the first Queen album, Genesis' Trespass & Nursery Crime, half side on Roxy Music's first, Ace's first (including Paul Carrack's very soulful smash hit How Long ), albums that i already cherished as a young musician early on in my life and i was quite gobsmacked when i got to work with that person. And we did work for a hectic but totally satisfying two months. But yeah, Van Der Graaf is probably one of modern music's most underrated bands. Man, the stories i heard those two months were un-fuckin-believable haha. Lemme play you something but before i do let me comment: Younger peeps or even older ones might think wtf are these old farts doing. Just wait for it around 2:40 hehe... Btw, Guy Evans on drums, another person i got to meet, if but just over the phone line, is an absolute sweetheart of a person and amazing musician. And he was actually the mediator to close that deal with JA.

All my best

 

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I'd cite VdGG as a major influence on my last project. Except I don't sing like Pete.

 

anyway I am a long time student of music, not a musician.

 

We're throwing around a lot of sweeping generalizations here. To have any kind of a serious discussion about this subject it's really necessary to define terms. The idea of a producer in a modern context means absolutely nothing like what it used to mean. George Martin was a producer. Tony Visconti was a producer. Ken Scott was a producer. Drake is... a producer? I guess? The kid with a laptop and Fruity Loops, is a producer? In the modern parlance, yes. But all these people are not the same.

 

When we used to splice tape with crudely fashioned stone razors after going hunting for artists.

 

Ok guys thanks for you views on this touchy subject... it just means up your game learn an instrument maybe! & not just bang on ya mothers saucepans! for 32 bars or have a chipmunk vocal, or devil low vocal. Peace people

 

faulker wrote one of his best novels on the top of a barrel.
want to complain that's a bad book because of the barrel?
it's not the tools it's the producer.

 

Ok, that's Foster

 

Errr... Because i 'm wasting my time anyway, i took a little artistic liberty to remix your post .
At least now it has a deeper philosophical meaning. But i gotta hand it to you. You haven't aged one bit. Haven't heard so much nonsense in one paragraph since the Jazzers thread.

 

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History proves you are nothing but a sad troll. I'm going to ChatGPT you something nice because you aren't worth the oxygen required to type more. You could at least get your story straight to make it seem like you have half a clue what you are even trying to talk about. See you on your next user account. This one is Pathetic, No creativity whatsoever.



What is the job description of a music producer?

ChatGPT said:

A music producer plays a crucial role in the creation and development of music, overseeing the artistic and technical aspects of recording, mixing, and mastering. Here's a detailed breakdown of a music producer's job description:

1. Overseeing the Recording Process:

• Collaborating with Artists: Producers work closely with artists, bands, or songwriters to help shape the sound and vision of a song or album.
• Setting a Creative Direction: They offer creative input, guiding the arrangement, instrumentation, and overall style of the track.
• Songwriting and Composition: Some producers contribute to songwriting or help refine the structure and arrangement of the music.

2. Technical Expertise:

• Recording and Mixing: A producer often works in the studio, operating recording equipment, working with sound engineers, and ensuring that the sound quality is top-notch.
• Editing: They may be involved in editing recordings, choosing the best takes, and making sure the performance sounds polished.
• Mastering: Producers sometimes assist with or oversee the final mastering process to ensure the track is ready for release.

3. Budgeting and Scheduling:

• Project Management: Producers manage the logistics of the recording process, which includes setting timelines, booking studio time, and managing budgets.
• Hiring Personnel: They might hire session musicians, sound engineers, and other professionals to contribute to the project.

4. Creative Problem Solving:

• Troubleshooting: A music producer often needs to solve creative or technical problems that arise during the recording process, such as tuning issues, creative blocks, or technical failures.

5. Industry Knowledge and Networking:

• Guiding Career Development: Established producers often help guide artists’ careers by advising them on market trends, branding, and potential collaborators.
• Industry Connections: Producers typically have strong relationships with record labels, A&R (Artists & Repertoire) representatives, music publishers, and other industry professionals, which can help artists gain exposure.

6. Sound Innovation:

• Developing Unique Sound: Many producers are known for developing a signature sound or style, influencing entire genres of music through their innovation and experimentation with technology and sound design.

7. Supervising Post-Production:

• Mixing and Final Touches: Producers supervise the mixing and post-production, ensuring the final product aligns with their creative vision.

8. Administrative Tasks:

• Legal and Financial: Producers may be involved in contractual and financial negotiations with record labels, distributors, and other stakeholders to ensure the project moves forward.

Skills Required:

• Creativity: A deep understanding of music theory, sound, and creativity in shaping an artist’s vision.
• Technical Proficiency: Knowledge of recording software (e.g., Pro Tools, Logic Pro), sound engineering, and studio equipment.
• Communication: Ability to communicate effectively with artists and studio staff to bring ideas to life.
• Project Management: Strong organizational and leadership skills to handle multiple aspects of a project simultaneously.
• Problem-Solving: The capacity to address creative and technical challenges during the production process.

A music producer may wear many hats, from a technical expert to a creative visionary, guiding a project from concept to final release.

 

Man, don't get annoyed, that's his main purpose. Just don't take it seriously. Have fun. Here. Let's all reminisce some great one liners from the past. @Lad Impala I guess i owe you this hehe...

And a poem!

I saved the best ever for last, @Xupito knows it well, i cannot directly quote it as it has been censored but i kept it:
"I have spent two years learning MIDI intimately. Using my 30 years of composing experience and music theory, I have made the technical aspects of MIDI work to create truly astonishing pieces that far surpass even my own expectations. I sit back and listen to the dozens of pieces I have composed over the past 2 years"

 

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For any curious, here's a link to that project. My brief for myself was 70's band with winds, strings, keys and no guitar influenced by VdGG and Gentle Giant. And on topic, I literally produced it in my bedroom.

 

I've been here ten years and Foster has never failed to keep shit lively

 

that's prime foster right there!
and u owe me nothing mate

5 pages and counting

 

Bravo. I had one of the best loooong morning coffees lately listening to your music. By the second track i was already rolling a fat one. Could not help it hehe. Totally enjoyed your album. Consistent production, very good instrumentation, some intricate arrangements here and there, lyrics can be moving at times as it should be. I really don't know you, but i it looks to me from what i hear, you were carrying some "weight" on your shoulder that you needed let go. And good you did because this is very nice indeed and caters for more comprehensive auditions. Although vocals is not your strongest point, all of it comes out fine and at the end you manage to have an overall unique style. My fav track is Frosting so far. If you are looking to feature guitar by some other person in a future project lemme know. I wish you best of luck as i see the release is relatively new and hope i see you perform those songs with a band somewhere, sometime.
Here, lemme leave you with something i did post in the past here somewhere but i really don't remember where. A lil' Floyd-esque song from the work i did with JA 25 yrs ago. (You will have to excuse the poster's visualizer, i have no idea who uploaded it anyway)
Cheers