Avicii interview question

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  1. Staee

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    at 5:10 he said he see's DJ'ing as a way to make a living and paying rent, which i am not sure how true is that

    If he never toured, wouldn't he have made at least 2-3 million dollars anyway just from online music royalties? if not much more?
     
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  3. clone

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    I'm not going to watch the interview, but here is some information from GPT. You might actually want to find the date of the interview, because depending on the date of it being taped, it might have changed his answer to the question. I'm not sure what you are even trying to figure out. He got very big, very quickly. He was not one of those djs like Tiesto, etc who had been around for forever; so his earnings picture probably changed very rapidly. When you say 2-3 million, your numbers there are way off.


    Avicii, the Swedish DJ and producer, generated substantial income from online music sales and streaming, contributing significantly to his estimated net worth of $50–85 million at the time of his passing in 2018. While precise earnings from digital platforms are not publicly disclosed, available data offers insight into his commercial success.Viberate

    Streaming and Digital Sales Performance
    • Equivalent Album Sales (EAS): Avicii achieved approximately 32.5 million EAS globally, with around 24.5 million attributed to streaming platforms like Spotify and YouTube. ChartMasters

    • "Wake Me Up": This track became Sweden's most-streamed song worldwide, generating over $6 million from 1.25 billion Spotify streams. edm.com

    • "Levels": Another iconic track, "Levels," surpassed 1 billion streams on Spotify, underscoring Avicii's enduring popularity. Deep Waves Music+1Celebrity Net Worth+1

    • "The Nights": In a recent 12-month period, this song accounted for 91% of a catalog's $34,978 in royalties, highlighting its continued revenue generation. musicroyaltiesinc.com
    Broader Income Streams
    Beyond streaming, Avicii's income encompassed:YouTubers.me

    • Digital Downloads: He sold approximately 36.7 million digital singles. ChartMasters

    • Live Performances: At his peak in 2014, Avicii earned $28 million, ranking as the third-highest-paid DJ globally. Quartz

    • Publishing and Licensing: His music continues to generate royalties through various channels, including synchronization deals for media usage.Financial Times+2Royalty Exchange+2musicroyaltiesinc.com+2
    While exact figures for Avicii's online music earnings remain undisclosed, the available data underscores his significant impact and success in the digital music landscape.
     
  4. shinyzen

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    yah this exactly. once you cross over into that mainstream non stop radio play, its a different story. Levels alone was on EVERY station. pop, urban, dance, even country stations lol. He pulled in multi millions from streaming.

    His touring was also nonstop, also creating significant income, and ultimately leading to his demise. RIP. I met him once backstage, he was a genuine, nice dude. A bit shy and quiet it seemed. The industry chewed him up and spit him out. A killer songwriter and producer, just getting started even. Dead at 28, truly sad.
     
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    Ppl like him know how manifestation and quantum laws work on intuition out of the box, but not knowing murderers dont always kill people the usuall way is problematic, specially if you came up from that sort of family, so they just infest around you all day long and just suck the life out of you until your organs cant repair anymore..

    I saw one part where he was in hospital and there was no person in that room that cared for him, just managers of sorts, happy to see him fall.
     
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    I usually would read this and move on but he was a friend of mine and I knew him at the beginning so this was in context to that when he started. He made of ton of money but he didn't come from being poor so for him he let the business be done by others. I doubt he really knew exactly how much money he had, there were a lot of hands in the pot as they say. The part about people sucking the life out of him was true and health wise he was also prone to illness because he had a partial gallbladder issue from birth. He knew drinking wasn't great for him but he did it because he was an introvert and didn't feel calm on stage and around a lot of people. I want to say for the record this is my opinion only but I do not believe FOR A SINGLE SECOND the official story of how he died and I will keep those reasons to myself because I can't prove any of it. Several other people came to me with bits and pieces and helped me form my informed opinion I hope someone at some point with the kinda of power you'd need really looks into it. He was the nicest guy you'd ever want to meet, humble and cool, he was one of us always trying to find something new and be better, he never thought he was good enough like many of us, especially speaking for myself I never can let a project be done because I second guess it. I miss him a lot because he was one of the few genuine people in the industry that truly was just an honest nice person.
     
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    same! i dont believe it!! i only briefly met him, but the official story just does not add up to me. Sorry for your loss.
     
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    It's still unclear what caused the DJ's death at the age of 28 in Muscat, the capital of Oman. Police reportedly know what caused his death – however, at the request of his family, the cause of death remains confidential. Only one thing is certain: There was no foul play, no foul play. The Swede died of natural causes.

    In 2016, the Swede retired from touring, having already canceled all of his gigs at short notice over the previous two years: "I grew up as an artist, I learned more about myself, and I realized there's so much I want to do with my life. I have many interests in different areas—but hardly any time to explore them." Instead of touring, however, he wanted to continue making music.

    Avicii has suffered from severe health problems in recent years. Alcohol consumption caused pancreatitis, and he had to have his gallbladder and appendix removed.

    Source: www.rollingstone.de/avicii-todesursache-1487343/
     
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    Avicii died of an overdose of prescribed roxycontin or something similar, he also did 700+ tours / performances and it was killing him, he lost himself and didn't want to perform but was a kind gentle soul that listened or almost coerced into performing by his agent Ash "Arash Pournori"

    Now i know he had stomach issues in the beginning which is why he got strong opiods, and as we all know strong opiods slows down the heart, and given too much or having a bottle ur self taking more than prescribed, leads to death by heart rate slowing down to much.

    Ive seen the documentary, ive seen both, there is the new one and a swedish one.
    Avicii was burnt out and he couldnt handle the pressure, if you listen to his songs he said him self i have to out do my latest track getting better and better, which is not true but in his mind he thought so,I blame to doctors, he did not kill him self. This is what the industry does to superstars and why superstars are so unhappy, there are countless examples, but in Avicii's case i think he just took one or two too much and went to sleep.

    I personally have friends that has died of strong opiods that where fine human beings, troubled yes, not suicidal.
    The problem is the opiods being too strong and mixed with benzodiazepines and or alcohol is super dangerous.
    Ive done a lot of opiods, never heroin, but oxy and kratom and some others, it works for a time then it does nothing and u have to take them just to get out of bed. I am today opiod free and soon clean from benzos, i like many others self medicate, which is what Avicii was doing.

    I think we should be grateful for his music he was a true superstar, it is unbelivable the tracks he has made from a laptop in FL studio, and doing this in a couple of years.

    He was too young and too kind hearted to take matters into his own hands and just say no, he had the money but his agent had some hold over him, so i blame Ash a lot, and the doctors prescribing these pills way stronger than oxy.

    If you are successful you can get anything , basically go to some rich doctor say hey i need this,like Elon Musk openly said he was on ketogan self medicating.

    And if you are poor and need painkillers like i do cus i have arthritis and fibromyalgi i dont get sh*t which is why iv'e been self medicating but i do it moderately, today i am almost drug free, see how long it last this time, was sober for 3 years and took a bachelor in musicproduction.

    Ive been focusing on creativty music mostly, and that is the real solution, taking deep breaths, exercise, walk in nature, free your mind from any stress because really what is the problem? Our surrounding or our thoughts.?

    In Aviciis case it was unfortunetly his surrounding. Best Producer to ever have lived, in the electronic dance music world, and to think he did this in so few years. True talent and timeless music.

    EDIT: I've had my appendix removed and my gallbladder, now the bladder was some serious pain , probably worst pain ive had and the doctors just stood there trying all kinds of mild painkillers, until i went totally white i my face, they injected me with morphine , didnt help, eventually 8hrs later the attack was finally over, this attack happend 3 times and when i went to the hospital they kept injecting morphine, untill the third time when it happend again i got ketogan which took the pain away and i said you remove this thing asap, and they did, the pain is so severe you can't take it. But you do, i had to wait several hours for the injections so i can relate to Avicii and painkillers, but if they removed it there was no reason to continue prescribed painkillers, it became an addiction,
    this is the world we live in, go to the doctor and get drug addicted especially in opiod treatments.
     
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    Our surrounding or our thoughts ?

    Heigel cleared this question a long time ago : our thoughts are the product of our surrounding.
    We can't think from "nothing".
    Change your surrounding and you will get different thoughts.
    But of course, someday we start to think about changing our surrounding due to the actual surrounding we can't stand anymore.

    That's called history, the key to really understand philosophy.
    But i've already gone too far for most ppl ...

    Some reading (even if very simplified) :
    https://philosophynow.org/issues/129/Hegel_on_History
     
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    Ofc if we are in jail it would be hell, but you can accept that sourrounding and find peace, its prolly not the easiest, cus ive experienced it my self. We get used to our surrounding but our being and mind is always free if chosen so, it takes study, i also study spirtual books etc so i'm aware of this, but a bad situation requires action, which means a lot of steps, change job, city, relationship but in all madness your still you and home is where you are. This knowledge is important, but like most people we cant get to that state of mind for more than a minute or two.

    and you can simply accept the fact of what is going on instead of looking outwards, like me im trying to be in my body rather in my mind.
    Or focus on music it's similar to a free mind cus ur not thinking of problems, i always say creativity is prolly the best thing and easiest once you begin doing something creative, be what it may be.
     
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    Victim of one's own self. Overwork, overconfidence, misjudgments, and other errors lead to pill addiction, alcohol dependence, chronic illnesses...! He read the medication's package insert but didn't take it seriously. Therapy/withdrawal = no response. Result = death!!!

    The 27 Club (also Club 27; usually 27 Club or Forever 27 Club in English) is a term used, with varying degrees of definition, to describe a group of musicians who died at the age of 27. These musicians primarily came from rock and blues music and died from self-destructive causes such as drug abuse and suicide. The 27 Club is often associated with the notion that this age is particularly dangerous for musicians.

    The club's closest, always-inclusive core consists of four famous American musicians: Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, and Jim Morrison, who died in the early 1970s, as well as Kurt Cobain, after whose death in 1994 the concept of the "27 Club" was first formulated and gained wider recognition. Usually, two Britons are included: Brian Jones (d. 1969), who thus became the club's first "member," and Amy Winehouse, who, after her death in 2011, helped popularize the phrase "27 Club."

    These six are also called the club's Big Six in the context of the various expansions or otherwise identified as its core members. Jones continues to be omitted from some US-focused lists, some of which add blues musician Robert Johnson (d. 1938) as the sixth (or otherwise seventh) member.
     
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    Oh trust me i know Club 27, everything about it.
    That is out there, obviously i wasn't there but Club 27 has fascinated me over 20 years
     
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    What I'm saying is that it drives many other artists, like Elvis, Kurt, Jimmy, etc., all great talents, either to drug addiction or death due to a lack of insight, intelligence, or inability. Many musicians, like the guitarist and singer of Metallica, had a psychotherapist present at band rehearsals, and eventually the singer/guitarist decided to go into alcohol rehab, and he and the band were saved.
     
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    Yeah
     
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    Tim Bergling suffered from a severe anxiety disorder throughout his life. His father jokingly called him a hypochondriac because, well into his early adulthood, he mistook body signals for symptoms of serious illnesses and initially asked his family and later doctors to examine him. From puberty onward, he also struggled with acne, which he only managed at the age of 21 with the antibiotic tetracycline. This antibiotic only very rarely causes irritation and inflammation of the pancreas.[79] Even as a teenager, he drank excessive alcohol to gain the courage to hold conversations at parties. During his DJ performances, he drank Jägermeister to numb himself.

    In January 2012, Bergling was hospitalized in New York for eleven days due to acute pancreatitis caused by his alcohol abuse and a tetracycline overdose. He ignored the doctors' urgent recommendation to abstain from alcohol and fast food for at least six months. In March 2013, he was hospitalized again in Brisbane. He was advised to have his gallbladder removed. In order to continue his tour, he refused this procedure.[83] In early 2014, he began detox using the substitute drug buprenorphine after his treatment for stomach pain had led to an addiction to oxycodone, among other drugs. He successfully discontinued both opioids and refused to take morphine for pain caused by kidney stones.

    In March 2014, Bergling was hospitalized again in Miami, where both his appendix and gallbladder were removed. Despite having gone off the drug for two months, he resumed taking opioids to help him recover. He hid his renewed severe addiction and the painkillers from his friends and family. His family doctor in the USA prescribed him antidepressants, sleeping pills, and Ritalin. He also asked his childhood friend Filip Åkesson to get him Xanax and buprenorphine. He was hospitalized at least twice for intoxication.

    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicii
     
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    Productions make you famous, true, but they alone dont pay much. This was 2014 true and it is today true.
    Productions are for most talented producers/djs fun! (Other have ghost producers, which getting paid per productions and most of the time, they dont want to dj, but rather spend time in the studio with new ideas)

    Djing gives quite some money and for most of the producers/djs out there, brings in most of the money.
    Think Armin, Deadmau5, and also avicii!

    If you watch the actual documentary about Tim Bergling, friends talk actual about how dedicated he was with productions, it was a very hard way up the hill for him.
    So what i could gather so far, was that touring/djing can be very stressful, even with a lot of pressure connected. And in all of that you gotta have to be creative (if you are not ghost powered), and even harder, if thats where you passion is centred.

    I think this should answer the question a lot better than a GPT answer.

    online music royalties are a joke today and were back then. Its kinda of like streaming sub for Netflix. It simply doesnt pay enough for every play than a physical copy.

    THere is people with 100mio plays on Spotify and that doesnt even pay that much, if you look up the values for one play. But djing and concerts still rather pays still well and is the majority of income for artists like avicii.

    Hence production gets cheaper, less quality, less playtime for music ... Sort of like creativity decline ...
     
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    Do you have any links to actual numbers that show actual figures? I looked up on Google, the earnings estimated for Snoop Dogg since he recently had that whole 45K from Spotify comment online. With just under 6 billion streams, it says estimated earnings of $9 to $15 million on them. There is no way 2-3 million on 6 million streams is correct.

    Also, that 3rd top earning spot on that list for a year would not be that far off in earnings number. That list is maintained every year and it's like the same 5 or 10 guys at the top of the list year and year out, they mostly just trade spots. The lowest on the Google resulting list is about $18 million bucks, and the highest showing as $240 million.
     
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    i talked with artists a while ago, how much streams/plays bring in total on spotify and it was devistatingly low.
    Even if you have lots of lots plays, labels, spotify take a huge cut.

    you can look up how much one stream/play brings and calculate it. I think it was something like 1/10000 ct or even less per stream.

    It could be that to the date of aviciis interview Spotify was paying better? A bit better! :D
     
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    If you gain a certain level of recognition, you can become an advertising agency or promote products. Most of the money comes not from concerts, but from the entertainment at the concerts (Hall rental, personnel costs). If the rich or the jet set want to party in Mallorca or Lanzarote, they fly in the DJ. That's where the money is. The ticket is, of course, very expensive, and so are the drinks. Look at Umnet Ozcan. https://ummetozcan.com/#shows

    How The Music Industry Works
     
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    I wouldn't take that Snoop 45K thing very seriously as being accurate. The last time he was hiring his own personal professional blunt roller, he was offering 55K. But you are right in that, streaming figures are very low compared to what someone might expect.

    On the Google result of that list, it shows Marshmelo at number 2, with annual income around $20 million. Which is at least somewhat in line with the $9 million of federal relief funds people claimed he "paid himself" for 1 year of no performances during Covid.

    Also, a dj could be trying to be honest by saying he had never gone on tour. They have to take so little stuff with them to go play their shows, and then hopping on a plane home is not what some people might call a tour.

    Radio airplay is much higher than streams, but it is not the same volume of plays. Wake Me Up made millions of bucks in global airplay. Like 10+ million. But only in one year, right. That would be split the various ways, but it's still millions of bucks on one track.
     
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