mama mia... @foster911 ...be pompous , obese, and eat cactus... you seem dead set on learning
(whatever it is you are trying to learn) in the most obtuse way possible...
you have even brought Kourous and Dusky together in solidarity.. which in itself is an admirable
feat.. but I'm not sure that it's helping you any...

do you perhaps have a touch of assburgers or autism?

 

hey berklee college is full of autistic guys with asperger syndrome that are top level musicians,technically
and i m sure even glenn gould wasn t that normal either

 

You said... "The harmonic content of different instruments is different in the shape of the wave forms ,and they depend on several factors,nonetheless the harmonical subdivision of the overtones generated fom a note are the same.The different of the tombre occirs because ,dependong on the istrument, it s material, the way the sound is generated,some harmonics r enhanced compared to others,and the wave forms of these harmonics might be triangular, square or whatever u want.Even the overtones generate other overtones of which they are the fundamentals, it s just that they r unhearable to humans"

Right the harmonics are enhanced on some and less on others with different waves shapes. Thats what i've said every single post.

From the site link it also says...
"Waveforms tend not to contain even harmonics if they are vertically symmetrical. The square and triangle waves above are perfectly mirrored above and below the horizontal center line, so they don’t have any even harmonics. The sawtooth, on the other hand, is lopsided and does contain even harmonics. This rule of thumb applies to other waveforms too.

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Why do different waveforms contain different frequencies, even though they’re basically just a single frequency? Let’s explore that. Remember our sine wave? It only contained its fundamental frequency with no additional harmonics...."

 

ok,but what u seem not wanting to understand is that the sine wave u talk about can exist only in theory,i reapeat it, the moment u hear that sine wave u ll hear it with its overtones,because every sound produces overtones for the reasons e wrote before.U can have sounds that are close to pure sine waves,because their harmonics r too weak to be audible.The highest note of a piano has the same amount of harmonics of its transposition in the lower range,but the highest note is closer to a pure sine wave because the majority of its harmonics are not audible by a person

 

Are you saying this is due to sound transmission through air or because of the human hearing mechanism within the ear

 

there s no sound transmission in the void,sound needs air to be transmitted from a source,and when this source transmits a sound, this generates overtones

 

@duskwings... how about a converter and amplifier attached to an oscilloscope... using headphones..
pretty close to a pure sine wave? 99% + anyway?
about the same for a sine from sylenth with your headphones ?

@foster911 I don't think child porn is allowed here..

 

even if u use headphones, be the moment the sound is generated it creates overtones,even if there s a millimiter between your ear and the headphones.there are some sounds that are close to a sine wave,like a whistle for example,so theoretically f u eq in order to cut most frequencies as possible u copuld get closer to a pure sine wave,but it s not pure,to your ear it may sound like there r no overtones, because u dont hear them,but it doesnt mean they r r not there.
Guys this is physics:every sound generates overtones

 

@foster911 such content is beyond what your main discussion was, you have been warned!!!

I can't phantom such actions.

 

Guys, this thread is just insane!

 

perfect pitch is genetically acquired,what some methods teach is synesthesia,that is the ability to associate sensations that beling to different sensorial spheres.they advertis to make people acquire perfect pitch,it isnt so,because perfect pitch is somehow a handycap,but it s a skill per se,it doesn t need any associations.These doesnt mean that training courses like david lucas burges' perfect pitch dont work,they do,if u r constant and dont expect miracles in weeks

 

*fathom

Just sayin buddy

 

Please someone gives me a hug!

I am so alone!

 

@Cav Emp lol ofc i know that, i used phantom because it mysteriously that people don't know how to read the rules, or it's just plain ignorance

 

I doubt it man.. I'm sure you have to beat all the tyolkas off with a stick !!

 

Please first read below post:
https://audiosex.pro/threads/atonal-music-is-all-in-a-minor.21523/#post-178520

Then

If our main concern in music production would not be the "pitch", then what's the importance of ear training or even worse than that, "music theory"? Below image is from Auralia. You can see the pitch every where except the rhythm.

Taking steps on the staff lines is like following our societies' man-made rules. Naturally, human is a free creature so why our musics would not be the same?

Till now, I was thinking that my main problem is accepting or rejecting the dissonant intervals but now I think actually there is no problem.

Kouros, it's your fault. My brain's pitch section was demagnetized by your punches and was turned to HZ so punch me in the ear please to cause another illness.

 

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Please cure me before suicide. I have seen lots of unsuccessful suicide actions even with guns. Maybe that happens for you too and your brain be like mine.

 

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RIP @kouros

 

By believing in Hz, no tedious ear training is needed. The only thing you need is getting accustomed to enjoy every thing. This does not relate to laziness.

If someday I would believe in God, its reason would not be his "know-it-all" just because he has let us enjoy from everything.

 

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