I have already postet quite some statements here consisting ai made content without people recognizing.
If someone else recognizes the source of the content, I think this person just does not know what he is talking about. Therefore I think the problem solves itself by the reaction of the community, even if this content might be annoying for some people at first.

 

Since AI-generated replies practically never help anyone with solving a problem or add to meaningful discussion and other users only get angry at the ones posting AI-generated replies, I don't get why they keep doing it. The vast majority of users here want to discuss things with other people, not an AI. We are 100% capable of asking an AI ourselves if we want to, so unless someone explicitly ask for AI-generated answers, it would be kind if people could refrain from posting replies like that (or at the very least hide them behind a spoiler).

 

Ahhh I see! So that explains why most of your answers are just bad! JK. But really by doing so you do yourself and everyone else a disservice in my opinion.

When I come here to ask a question I want a human response from people with real world hands on experience not some ai bullshit that scrubs sm, redit, youtube etc and only gets it right about 50% of the time. Is that really what you want? I also only answer questions when I have the tried and true answers from my experiences. If I wanted some generic bullshit I would talk to the bot and why even have a forum in the first place.

Anyway I think the whole point is to stop the copy-paste first responders from spamming comments with whatever ai spits out and fools others into taking it as written in stone. Spoilers also allow everyone to decide for themself if they want to waste their time to read ai or bypass it altogether. Me I want to know who I am talking to. A personal human interaction with those who have a reputation here and credibility in the scene, audio fields and whole music industry, not meaningless generic fake nonsense pretending. Just mmy opinion of course

 

I agree. I've noticed an increase of people giving you AI prompts in attempts to help and it's often the case that it's not helping users, especially since they've probably already tried ChatGPT. I've also noticed it in posts related to personal opinion and I have no clue how GPT's "Top 10 reverbs!" is useful for the discussion.

 

Absolutely incorrect. What does not fix anything is 4 pages of users randomly guessing at stuff because no-one is going to write step-by-step resolutions of computer problems. Or the single individual user who misuses it to post garbage in every single thread.

It should have a spoiler tag so it does not flood a thread. It's no different than tl:dr posts.

The problem with AI response is when the person does not know what they are asking it to type out for them and are pasting bullsh*t. There is no reason to disparage a tool because one user simply misuses it. (He did the same thing long before AI).

Half the time users respond negatively to AI response are when the thread sits empty with no-one even trying to answer. Then an AI response is posted, the negative commenters read the relevant information; and then we all of a sudden have all these "experts" ready to parachute in behind; like they didn't just read the prior post to try acting like they knew how to answer the question. If you think this does not draw notice, it's because it's a very old topic.

Most people do not like it, because it is a very good bullshit detector. Magnus Carlsen can't beat a simple supercomputer. AI has read every single post on a website which others would rather regurgitate one at a time as their own, without any citation whatsoever. That's exactly where they learned the same information anyway. Rando websites and Youtube.

Are we here for typing practice? https://play.typeracer.com

 

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I don't care. I think these kind of respones are either comical (wether it's because the AI is saying nonsense, or because people are freaking out), or useful. It's a win-win

 

Spoiler: Source - ChatGPT

This is a fairly balanced and diplomatic post, especially for a community forum. It recognizes member fatigue with new rules while also addressing a real issue—GPT-generated content diluting quality or authenticity. A few thoughts:

Strengths:

• Tone: The casual, slightly irreverent tone ("another f'n rule") works well to disarm defensiveness.
  
  
• Transparency: Inviting user input before implementing a change shows respect and fosters trust.
  
  
• Clarity: The examples of problematic posts are simple and illustrative.

Potential improvements:

• Precision: The example of the “Gibson Strat” (which doesn't exist; Gibson and Fender are separate brands) weakens credibility a bit. A real or clearly absurd example might serve better.
  
  
• Framing: While it's good to allow community voice, it could clarify why GPT-sourced comments are seen as problematic (e.g., misinformation, generic content, tone mismatch).

Overall: It strikes a good balance between enforcement and openness. Slight tweaks to examples and added rationale would make it more effective.

 

If AI generated content becomes too much (we've all got different thresholds for that I suppose), then there's zero point for me personally to stay here. Might as well just go and talk to ChatGPT.

Not that it matters, I'm just one random here, but it would be a shame.

 

i disagree with commenters saying there is no place for AI response. While AI can, and often is wrong, there are plenty of instances where its not. It can be very helpful, and is excellent at problem solving and troubleshooting issues related to plugins, or audio in general. While sure, you posted here wanting a human answer, maybe the human may not have an answer, but does know the correct wording / how to prompt the AI so that it does give a relevant and applicable answer. Not all prompts are created equal, and while you may know how to use AI, we all think very differently, and sometimes changing just one word in a prompt can yield a different result.

That being said, im honestly indifferent, but do think some of the comments are kind of annoying. Somebody ask's "whats a good synth for pads?", we don't need a chatgpt generated response giving us the history of pads, and how john lennon's mother was the first to ever milk a pad machine back in 1942, and then listing every type of pad sound ever made.

I vote spoiler, just because its more fun, and can help de-clutter pages by hiding the gpt answer. It may also help by hiding the text from future ai trainings. Which ive noticed in gearspace. when using AI for a hyper specific topic, it can quickly turn into a circle jerk, where the AI starts spitting idiotic stuff out based on answers it generated by being prompted by somebody that wanted it to generate those answers. I hope that makes sense.

 

I come here to communicate (and, yes chat) with other people...
I can be my own Prompt Jockey if I want AI guff.
So, a polite notice (such as the one below*) from posters of AI answers would be most welcome and I can then happily scroll on to read the guff from the real people if I want to.

*Source: ChatGPT

The Gibson Strat is widely considered to be the best guitar ever made.
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BTW, I disagree.
The best guitaxe is unquestionably The Hofnerb CelloCaster but only when fitted with flatworm reeds. (source: my-bollocking-brain).

 

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The percentage of nonsense that chatGPT writes is exactly the same as that of humans

 

If any person reads something and wants to reply because it stirs something good, or the opposite in them, an A.I response, even if it it agrees with them, is not in their own words.
It really does not matter how articulate it is or how more informative, it is not them. Pretending it is their own opinion when it isn't - well even an A.I can tell anyone what lesser human trait that is.
So you are asking for honesty. More of that is a good thing.

 

Spoiler: source : TwatGPT

he said foster. even ai knows this twat. but foster + trust?! hehe.

oops. I dont belong in this thread. bye.

 

Personally, I want answers from a real human being if I have an important question, not from an AI POS bot. Yes I am biased against AI crap which is now almost everywhere and I find extremely annoying, mispronunciation of words, improperly spoken sentences, phrases and so much more BS. Also so much false, faked and altered facts and truths and/or information on just about everything, I prefer researching and reading for whatever I am looking for now in old books. Everywhere we are inundated and flooded by AI Garbage.. Being a Sci-fi fan, the DUNE (1984) Prologue says it all, we have become too lazy and reliant on technology, which undoubtedly will be our downfall. "The world was now controlled ruled by thinking machines with human minds. Computers and conscious robots, people deteriorated into a state of apathy, Then they became victims and slaves to other men with these machines. After a Great Revolt, human beings were forced to develop their minds once more."

 

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There is one massive hole in this logic. " Probably". The sad truth, is they haven't or they would not be asking. They often have not looked at more than 1 Google result, if any at all; they have not given any real thought to their dilemma at all. They have not read the software or hardware manual, they have ignored instructions in .nfo files that are written in very simple steps. Sometimes their problem is solved by simply looking at basic issues of signal flow. That should be like breathing.

Should we go back to the days of alt.binaries.s.u. and just tell them to kindly go RTFM? Maybe some cute lmgtfy links?

 

I say mark the jacked up "AI" b.s. well so it can then be ignored more easily. There are some accounts here that do nothing but spew that shit into the forum many times a day. I have those accounts ignored and many others who even spew it occasionally.

 

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Let's look at this constructively.

Person a requires info So posts the question in here

Person b decides they want to help. Maybe if person a types their question in to google the ai answer could be sufficient (or not)

Therefore I think everyone asking for info should do their search first and THEN if they don't like the response they get from AI , ask here.

Which means there should be a definitive NO to AI answers in future.

 

I dont mind it. A thought for anyone is to trim down the response any LLM gives. They are usually really fluffy. you can say "No yapping" or "10% yapping" to any LLM and it helps trim the AI fluff

 

I honestly would just ban AI answer altogether, because most of the time, they're not helping anyone. I think when someone asks a question on a forum, they expect a real person to give their perspective. If they wanted AI, they would just go to GPT and ask. Same as people used to say to "just google it" back in the day. There are several members in this site that aren't doing ANY basic reading of the topic and are just prompting to get an answer. They don't even know the answer, and they expect the AI to give a correct one. There's literally no reason to allow this type of behavior, it's just a bunch of dudes trying to +1 their posts and maybe get a few likes for their ego while making the threads worse for everyone.

That said, if AI is allowed, at least I want it taking the least space possible. GPT and other LLMs will just spit a bunch of random crap that takes a huge chunk of the screen, so at least make it easy to ignore it.