Audio Modeling

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  1. Atlantis84

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    i guess that russian site doesn't care they still took it lol..... i kind of figured that it would happen
     
  2. Shiori Oishi

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    I installed it. My computer is now acting funny. But it could also be from installing an old BFD crack and that darn ASIO audio driver it requires...
     
  3. BlackHaze1986

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    Would be very nice for Releases which are removed, because something is shady with them. I downloaded all 3 straight away when they dropped on Sis Site and was going to test today but after reading this Thread i deleted all 3 Releases. By the Way the Releases were also big in Size compared to the last Clean V.R Releases.
     
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  4. BlackHaze1986

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    Sister Site is the only of all the Sites which cares about their users :wink:
     
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  5. Trurl

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    I do wonder if VR can take these and fix them...
     
  6. Atlantis84

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    i said in woodwinds bundle comment section on sister site yesterday that V.R. or R2R should be able to fix it because of them having access to all of the installers now the only installer was missing for windows was the woodwinds now since we have it now i think it could be fixed by V.R. or R.2.R. if someone give them the woodwinds installer.....V.R. already have the brass and strings installers they just didn't have the woodwinds but now we got the woodwinds installer now so thats good news
     
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  7. clone

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    I have never gotten one of those requests/notices, but just figured it would be "remove ALL my stuff" and not just something recent.

    This removed idea really would be helpful, but any real need for it is only due to UPAWG no longer being online. They diligently marked all Nuked scene releases and reason for Nuke. That only applies to actual scene releases, so this one wouldn't appear anyway; because they never listed information from non-Scene Userland/P2P releases at all. The majority of users know why things are listed as from P2P and not scene, because what it means is the origin of the files is unknown/maybe untrustworthy and you should be *more* cautious and you are on your own with it.

    Sites often maintain a "Delete Log" which shows that information, too. When something is removed from Sister Site the entire posting is deleted/unpublished and all record of it is gone. This also may include very helpful information users have posted, and usually it is just technical mumbo-jumbo about how they got something to work on their systems. Users often ask for information about a post, and the information they need was already there...

    I have no info about why UPAWG is gone, and it could be any number of actual reasons. But it certainly looked like it was a lot of work to keep up collecting all that information. It really was a nice resource of information. I think doing anything like this manually would be a source of a lot of extra work. It could be considered "Throwing good effort after Bad"; meaning using resources toward something which should just be gone and a done deal. I don't think it would need to be a "proof" type of thing, it could be very generic reason codes like "suspect files" or something. Keeping a specific database of dmca removals has a certain sound of "evidence collection" to it and might not be such a wonderful idea. If it was just another dropdown field or checkbox that recorded reason for deletion maybe it wouldn't be a ton of extra work.

    I just mean this to be some additional info. Keeping track of infected files for Macs would be a pretty cushy job; one person could probably even keep the same work hours as the guys at the UAD tech support department. :)
     
  8. shinjiya

    shinjiya Producer

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    I think the biggest issue with those releases is the potential of it being a delayed malware, meaning it wouldn't activate immediately in hopes of getting as many people as possible to fall into it. If it never activates, it was really only false positives and everyone was wrong.

    For me, the red flag was that you would have to elevate privileges yourself to get it to install, that means the installer script could run a silent script that relied on those privileges to get malware outside of the scope of the .exe and VSTs.

    I even executed the .exe myself to see what would happen, but once it didn't start the installation because I didn't run it as admin, I noped out and left it like that. No traces of it in the system if you executed but it errored out for not having admin rights. Kaspersky and a second opinion from RogueKiller didn't accuse anything, so I believe only people who executed the VST/standalone could be affected if the infection can be remote/timer activated.
     
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  9. No Avenger

    No Avenger Audiosexual

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    Agreed, any useful info is gone when a post at AZ is removed. In case of malware this is a bit annoying. Thankfully, we have a good community that doesn't hesitate to create a thread here and ask if something was wrong with it.

    Since such incidents are pretty rare, we probably do not need a extra sub-forum, maybe even a continued thread isn't necessary. Creating one when this happens could be sufficient.
     
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  10. clone

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    This is exactly why I mentioned Stuxnet. Hundreds of Thousands, or even million machines; infected. But if those machines had nothing relative to/with Siemens PLCs ( Programmable Logic Controllers, Not the DAW! ) and/or Gas Centrifuges; it did absolutely nothing but replicate and spread. If you happened to find a usb flash drive in the parking lot at work and stuck it into a computer; apparently you had a pretty bad day.

    I think this, too. They are never related incidents. Most of the time, it is just false positives anyway. With whatever is already being done; there are never even any duplicate uploads. UPAWG was really helpful for the rest of this stuff. They often even nuked something and showed the solution.
     
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    It's rare for sure, but I think a more central place (single thread) would actually be really useful... Especially if everyone can read it but only mod/admin can post.

    It can be hard to keep up to all threads here, so knowing immediately where to look to keep tabs on what may be an issue would be nice. Especially when it comes to potential malware threats. That's about all I'd care about it for. Don't need to know about DMCA takedowns etc. DMCAs happen all the time, and that's a person's immediate assumption, which can lead to a false sense of safety even when a post disappears.

    If there's a threat of malware in something I downloaded, I really want to know about it ASAP. There probably is no perfect solution, and I understand the hesitancy to throw a group /individual under the bus when it could be a false positive, but I would definitely appreciate a heads up pretty quickly that you pulled it because "it couldn't be verified as safe" (or some sort of moderate wording).

    A lot of people have too much to lose to wait for people to slowly speculate in a random thread of unknown location when a moderator/admin has already made that decision for good reasons.
     
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    The A/V on my internet boxen doesn't false trigger very often and didn't trigger on any of the three packages here. Even after pulling apart the installers with innoextract and scanning them...The latest WINRAR (keygen) does trigger my a/v even though it's false and triggered others A/V's as well... No one even blinked. Still won't attempt an install of any of these on a production machine as the reports indicate they don't run efficiently enough as a proper warez release should.
     
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  13. shinjiya

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    The thing about the SWAM releases is that it is a collection of very unusual circumstances: it requires elevated privileges to install (the installer can do that by itself, otherwise nothing would ever install in program files), it is a fairly high profile release by an unknown source, and it flagged several AVs, some with very concerning descriptions of the threat.

    The most surprising thing to me is that people still pirate WinRAR despite 7-zip being free and fully compatible (you might want it to pack rars but I see no reason to when 7z nowadays can be unpacked by pretty much anything).
     
  14. No Avenger

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    Technically this is not a problem. We can add posts to a locked thread. I'll talk to Olymoon about it.
     
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  15. saccamano

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    I use winrar a lot. Been using the same keyfile for quite a few versions/updates. Throwing a keygen into it that has issues with a/v's, even false issues, seems a bit extreme to me...
     
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    Thanks a lot for considering that! Keeping it locked to admin/mods only would keep all the banter out of there, making it easy to see what's of concern, and keep Oly happy too. haha
     
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    omg this Hail77 whatsup man what took u so long to join the forum maybe this had to happen lol
     
  18. clone

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    What was the username of the person who uploaded these files to sister site? The actual username that was used...
     
  19. Atlantis84

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    his name is hidera he a trusted uploader
     
  20. Atlantis84

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    i make wallpapers sometimes as well on here u can check me out if u want but aint no where close to @NYCGRIFF he been making wallpapers before i even existed on Audioz he's like the God of Wallpapers lol
     
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