Attention all mix gurus!! Question about vocal fx chains.

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  1. Levitate

    Levitate Producer

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    Hello all!!! [​IMG]

    Been a few days maybe a week since I've been on.So busy.

    My question is about vocal fx chains.Recently I've been listening to a lot of EDM.And a lot of Zedd.There's a few songs that I absolutely love his vocal fx chain.
    It's so nice! *yes*

    Anyway,just curious what you guys may think his fx chain is? My usual fx chain is something like this.

    Maserati Vx1 or Ezmix

    melodyne or auto tune

    chorus

    delay

    reverb

    in that order.

    Anyway here's some examples of what I'm curious about.
    Hope everyone is doing great! :hug: :mates:
    Also any help or advice anyone can give is very much appreciated.
    Thanks in advance. :bow:



     
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  3. ovalf

    ovalf Platinum Record

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    Lovelly Levitate,
    How about axiliary channels?
    You must put the reverb and delays separte in aux.
    EzMix? delete it, if you wannal all in one go to Nectar 2.
    Compressors I always use 2 at least, the secound always Vertigo VSC 2
    For the valve (seams that have some valve on the voice #2tracks) go for the Audiothing Valve Exciter, its just right ! (also the novetechs are good)
    The second track have lots of auxiliary channels fx
    Try to give power to the vocals wih auxiliary channels like
    long dirty
    long clean
    short dirty
    short clean
    dirty
    clean (main channel.
    medium
    reverb delays, all with different tempos near to sync time. One plugin that do many things a little is Saussage Fattener (but it do appears to be a distortion only), we should do the same... a litte bit of everything and the poison is made!
    Basically we must know all the rules to BREAKE them!!!
    There's a lot power in the tracks and they use a lot of fx, remenber that mix is something that multiply 1, like 1x1, but more like 1x1x, 1x1y and so one.
    Divide the caracter boldly and use a litle of everything to got a great sound.
    I would like to hear you tracks, so I can help you more.
    if you wanna Pm me and I hope that I helped you :mates:
    Remember that fx chain is especific for each voice!
     
  4. thantrax

    thantrax Audiosexual

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    This could be the Tips and Triks day... officially *yes*
     
  5. cs2014

    cs2014 Noisemaker

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    Why don't you suggest EZmix?
     
  6. ovalf

    ovalf Platinum Record

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    If you compare each of EZmix with a good fx you will know that a good plugin always is ahead.
    A love Ozone, Nectar and Alloy, and I prefer then over Ezmix. For a newbee its a good way to start to see the possibilities of multi fx. Off course. I do not believe that all in one solutions can do the job near to professional quality.Also a real mix depends a lot of different flavors. Also the flexibility of auxiliaty channels are always handy, and other instruments can use the same fx.
    One thing that I spende A LLOOOOOOOOTTTTT of time is comparing fxs, and I think that everyone must do the same. Choose what you like build a musical personality and that is priceless :wink:
    EDIT
    One good exercise is to compare the hardware emulations plugins e choose only the ones that you like the most (sometimes I need to choose more than one)
    Its already posted here but its always good to remind
    Classic Hardware Emulation
     
  7. cs2014

    cs2014 Noisemaker

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    Thanks for sharing information and the link. I didn't know that web site before.
     
  8. Baxter

    Baxter Audiosexual

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    The usual standard EQ (lowcut, ~500 for body, ~1kHz nasality, ~6kHz for clarity [pun], 10kHz for "air", etc) and compression + parallel compression goes a very long way.
    Then add the goods like double-tracking, filtered and/or ducked delays, ducked/SC compressed reverbs, automated send amounts, etc.

    I really like Zedd. Talented as hell, musically/technically as a songwriter, piano player, producer, drummer, etc.
     
  9. Zenarcist

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    I'm just curious why Melodyne isn't the first plugin in the chain?
     
  10. Baxter

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    Maybe because you want to optimize the vocals, before running it through Melodyne.
     
  11. SineWave

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    My "classic" vocal chain is usually either sennheiser md-431, shure sm57 or sm58 [I love dynamic mikes on vocals] <20$ cable> tc konnekt 48 using its limiter if needed <adat> rme hdsp 9652 > rocktronics hpf or just about any hpf > luftikus eq or slickeq > ik multimedia black 76 or white 2a > and then apply the needed processing like chorus/harmonizer/delay... > send to reverb. Works every time. :wink: The most important thing in the chain is the mike and the preamp. Also what most people regard as stupid things like good pop-filter and the good, heavy stand, mood too [beer is good for that]. *yes*

    Cheers :mates: !
     
  12. Zenarcist

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    OK thanks, I was just asking because on the Melodyne website it says "You are advised to insert Melodyne in the first plug-in slot – before the compressor, EQ or other effects. The reason is this: during the transfer, Melodyne records the input signal you intend to edit – and with it all effects ahead of it in the signal chain, which are then frozen into the signal and can no longer be adjusted. In order to use your compressor, EQ and other effects in the usual way, you need therefore to make sure they come after Melodyne Plugin in the signal chain."
     
  13. SineWave

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    I really don't know why would they say that. In my experience it's always better to eq and compress before doing anything to the vocals. :wow:
     
  14. SineWave

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    But yes, on the other hand definitely process with melodyne before fx like chorus, delay, reverb.
     
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