ASIO4ALL vs FL Studio ASIO - different sound?

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  1. nmkeraj

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    I have just installed Steinberg ASIO drive. It sounds the same as FL Studio ASIO and has three times smaller latency than FLS. But it doesn't route sound to my headphones at all. Even when I change Output Device to Headphones the speakers still play. FLS switches sound automatically.
     
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    so annoying
    plugged into interface or directly ?
    win10?
     
  3. Auen Fred

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    so whats the point in using asio ?
    DirectSound=DX ?
    is wasapy or direct sound used in win11 ?

    bet on first point too but dont think eq but dynamic adjustments could really be + turn of soundcard for all other progs and system other than DAW .
     
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    you work without interface ?
     
  5. nmkeraj

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    In the studio I work with Arturia minifuse where I have to use ASIO4ALL. I often without the audio interface but just on headphones plugged into my laptop.
     
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    ASIO is designed to provide low latency audio, compared to Windows audio engine which is about 10x slower,
    for playback or mixing, it doesn't really matter, because higher latency doesn't matter there,

    obviously if you fake ASIO on top of Windows audio engine, you don't get proper acceleration from dedicated ASIO capable audio interface, so you won't get as low latency and stability at low buffers at all
     
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    there is a difference between cubase, fl studio, reason, studio one. what kind of difference i dont know really but I CAN hear IT Definitely
    people who say all DAWS sound the same is like saying all CARS are the same..

    i use creative asio, and native instruments komplete asio
     
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    i noticed my songs that are mixed both on a surround system and stereo monitors sounds great. its good to test the songs on different speaker setups and headphones. i think it is an ART to get it right.. because my system is custom sound system. it has THX certified speakers and dolby surround.. even optical connection
     
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    I found, at least for any laptop I had, the cheapest USB audio interface is better than using ASIO4all thats only an emergency solution and otherwise a pain in the backside. ASIO4All has always been instable (does not find soundcard, changes roiting by itself, routing not usable at all ...) for me and every now and then changed its own settings.
    So if I depend on my setup on a laptop I won't think about using ASIO4All
    So I would suggest to get a simple USB audio interface with its own ASIO driver to get rid off ASIO4All.
     
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    i have the same issue. for me FL Studio ASIO sounds much thinner
     
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  12. Auen Fred

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    i think that latency thing with asio4all is bingo for people not really know what they do ...
    i read somewhere that some people tweaked wasapy for latency way below asio4all...
    and what doess asio4all do ? doesnt it tweak parametrs of wasapi/DX by default and turn off all other audio processing and thats it ?
    parametrs i can tweak by myself if im aware of what to tweak ?
     
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    i have nothing against jokes and offtopic but feckn pseudo audio engine DAW sound dumbtalk has nothing to do with driver shizzle....
     
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    there is a separate installer in the IL forum. yeah you can installed it without FL.
     
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    I believe "FL Studio ASIO" works as a virtual ASIO routing instead of a real ASIO Driver such as Asio4All. This means your routing will be determined by the Windows sound standard driver. Hence you can change the volume and the properties of the FL Studio ASIO sound with your Windows options. Including volume and any sound enhancer you might have on your Windows. Asio4All on the other side, routes your DAW directly to the output, bypassing windows.

    You can also see the latency for FL Studio ASIO is way more high than Asio4ALL and any other exclusive Asio driver.

    I find FL Studio ASIO particularly useful to record my DAW with OBS as the audio is actually passing by Windows and OBS detects it. However, I would strongly avoid it for recording and making productions, mostly because of the latency.

    Make sure your Windows does not have any sound enhancer activated when you are using FLSTUDIO ASIO
     
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    Short answer: NO
     
  17. Auen Fred

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    so its just different buffer size ?
     
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    i'm sure they are so different they null each other out lol
     
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    My thought. Can amount of ASIO drivers installed in Windows interrupt each other? I have quite a few. They are dedicated to their audio interfaces. But it might be the case. If I couldn’t initiate Arturia Minifuse ASIO there must be a culprit somewhere hidden.
     
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