are there ways to structure a vst3 folder ?

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  1. DoubleTake

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    I always set up my VST folders on my hard drive by Vendor.
    That makes it logical to manage them (install / uninstall, etc).

    As far as organization within DAWs, Reaper is pretty good allowing one to create Folders in a browser pane, but does not allow subfolders, so it becomes too crowded, etc.
    IO find that FL Studio has the best system for organization, using normal folders to do this.
    It is actually Windows-compatible in method, and one sets it up in Windows folders and can see immediate changes in FL Studio's browser.
    I have mine set up like so:
     
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    ArticStorm Moderator Staff Member

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    i do synth and FX. and then i created racks in ableton for the synths, which i put into a synth folder and added to a collection.

    if i need something fancy i search for it in the Plugin browser. So much easier that way.
     
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  3. Auen Fred

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  4. Auen Fred

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    compressor folder need subfolder for opti,vca,mu and fet at auen freds
     
  5. Auen Fred

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    you sure ? also from live 7-10 it allowed vst2 with the same structure as the windows tree anyways.
     
  6. Triphammer

    Triphammer Producer

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    One of many reasons it has become my main DAW.
     
  7. InFiNiGhTe

    InFiNiGhTe Ultrasonic

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    If we talk installations, I'd rather let things say in the Common Files folder in Windows... The easier the better.

    If we talk in the DAW.... I have one example for one of the DAWs I use:

    FL Studio is quite the pita with their plugin manager.. So I figured out by checking out my FL Studio Presets folder in Documents, I was able to see ".fst" files for each plugin that the manager was able to scan and identify... Well, "identify" required you to verify scanned plugins aswell, as it has to know whether it was "effects" or "generators".. I chose to manually create my folders for the plugins I wanted to use regularly.. So by creating folders for EQ's, Compressors of any type, Synthesizers, Samplers, Effects, Multi-Purpose plugins.... The list goes on and really depends on what you prefer..

    Since I did this, my FL had a much better system than ever. Everything is now in my own systematic order.
     
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  8. ArticStorm

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    in general IL got the whole browser thing better solved than Ableton.

    i would want FLs browser in Live.
     
  9. Auen Fred

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    also a point...vst3 root is way to long
    it was right :dunno:...better than fl's...just 1:1 windows tree for vst and samples folder :snuffy:
    they fckt 50% of workflow advance over all other...so stupid
     
  10. Auen Fred

    Auen Fred Platinum Record

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    fck it , i stay with live10 and will never buy anything of ableton ,NI or steinberg software .
    these overpaid berlin hippsters living in a bladder can ....... .
     
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    i saw the VST3 thing coming years ahead, so i thought about a solution.

    solution was creating racks for synths and use collections for the FX plugins. works fine for me.

    i could need a few more collections, but with that i can atleast avoid their tagging shit and still be fast.
     
  12. Audioguydaz

    Audioguydaz Producer

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    Interesting - could you talk a bit more about your Synth Racks? You create a Rack for each individual Synth and then file that?
     
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    i made ready to use racks of the VST synths.

    i have added so far: for example sylenth1:
    velocity, Scale and Random and i did setup paramters to control and then i saved it to a folder with teh name synths.
    did this with all synths and instrument plugins i use, put them into in folder and then added the folder to collections.

    works fine for me.

    for still like Melodyne, that xfer midi plugin, i created a collection tools, where i added the plugins to collections.

    it just work for me.
     
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  14. Guitarmaniac64

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    Yes and if you use Reaper the Vst3 and Vst2 folders will show up if you tick it it in options\show in left pane list
    That is way better than categorys (which you then can untick) as some of those metatags doesnt organize in the correct category and some tag it different like channelstrip instead of channel strip drum and drums etc etc.
     
  15. Hybridstudios

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    Most current daws will allow you to use the plugin manager and make your own folders and put whatever plugins you want in them. some daws allow you to categorize based on by type vs manufacturer and it’ll already be halfway the way you want.

    What daw are you using?
     
  16. Auen Fred

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    ableton
    and this thread brought to surface that only s1 and fl come near like it was in ableton...reaper is great but read what i wrote before in this thread bout it...

    its a dead horse or how you say in english...i stay with live 10 and vst2 with my windows root and enjoy that what partly once made ableton a workflow monster over all other....
    had hopes someone mention bitwig but no...
     
  17. CMAudioz

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    As mentioned, in Cubase, you can create your own plugin lists for quick loading using the Plugin Manager, so maybe a list for instruments, fx, mastering (if you do it within Cubase) etc. You can arrange by vendor (not the most reliable way) if you like.
    As for installation directory, if you move the actual VST's into their own folders, you may come into a problem when it comes to updating those VST's, the vendors tend to stick to the default location/s, maybe their own subfolder in the VST3 folder, unless you remember where you've moved them into (if you are given the option to choose that is), you could end up with two of the same plugins!
     
  18. Hybridstudios

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    Probably due to ppl not even understanding or knowing but I can tell you Nuendo and Cubase allow you fully customize your plugins in anyway that you want and have for 10+ years
    I’ve used every thing out there over the last 25 years. Quite a few actually allow you too
    As for the vst3 folder itself yes you can make folders but they won’t show in your daw like that as they would with a vst2 plugin folder
    Most daws have plugin managers that allow you to make folders, move plugins around etc.
    Ableton I’m not sure about but I’ll try it tomorrow and let you know if there’s a way within Ableton 12
     
  19. Hybridstudios

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    Btw I already found that Ableton 12s browser can do exactly what you want via the library . Just a quick YouTube search
     
  20. ArticStorm

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    if you need this level of organization/sorting, might be good to remove some plugins.
    often we over organize, because we have to much of something.

    i do for example use most of the Ableton FX devices or sometimes even ableton synths for easy tasks, they work fine and are very good implemented in Live.

    just an observation i found over the long time.
     
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