Hi all,

How can you archive a perfect start position with different (soft) synths with the same sound for stacking multiple layers?
Like 3x saw or 3x square with Serum,Spire,Sylenth.

I tried to but i fail, when checking the manual you would need to setup your synths like this (not 100% sure)
-Serum(rand = 0 + phase = 0/180)
-Spire(phase = 30)
-Sylenth(retrig = on)

When recording the output to compare the waveforms, they are not exactly in phase.
In practice you need to set Spire phase around 60 or something.
Also Serum + Sylenth sounds ok although Serum starts later then Sylenth (see audio example 1+ waveform comparison)
But Spire + Sylenth or Serum is not sounding ok although the starting points are almost exactly the same from Spire and Sylenth (see audio example 2 + waveform comparison)

I do not what to do anymore to get this right.
Plugin Delay Compensation is on i tried it also without.
Oh by the way this is in Ableton Live, (MAC and PC)


Synths Settings:


Waveform comparison (1ms):


Audio Examples 1+2:
1.Serum + Sylent (1st and 3th waveform)
https://clyp.it/jto4zuhq

2.Spire + Sylenth (2nd and 3th waveform)
https://clyp.it/cklixc2y

Spire and Sylenth (audio example 2) has definitely phase issues.
What am i doing wrong or what the heck is going on?

Edit:

Quote from a ''friend'':
So I just tried it with Serum and Massive, while Massive had the same as Sylenth, Serum however decided to start everytime at about 90 degrees out of phase compared to Sylenth which is kinda strange, I tried playing around with the Rand but it didn't help much.. However this is in the end not such a big deal for us unless you start stacking different basses from different synths.

 

Last edited: Apr 21, 2016