Any recommendations or advice for D&B production?

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  1. Bunford

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    Looking to get into doing some drum and bass production and looking for some good recommendations for any tutorials,sample libraries, or even just general advice on achieving a good drum and bass sound.

    The style I'd ideally want to be in the ball park of is the Noisia sound, but obviously putting my own influences into it too. Just looking for a firm footing to get me started though :)

    Cheers in advance :wink:
     
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  3. Bunford

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    Anyone?
     
  4. twathead

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    youtube search ARTFX & Letsynthesize

     
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  5. Polomo

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    You've got Native Instruments Maschine Studio, Native Instruments Maschine Jam and still ask this ?

    With a bit of tweaking it's more than enough for exactly this .
    Try some stuff .

    But most important make your OWN percussion sounds .
    Everything Unique will help to brand you music and make itself unique.
    Slap You Microphone on a drum. On a Table .(Hopefully it's a high quality but low budget one like the Behringer XM8500)
    Record some Bottles hit them with a meat stick . (Sounds perverted but it shouldn't :bleh:)

    try the crazy stuff




    I think the best tutorials are the experiences you make on your own when you try crazy stuff .

    But that’s just my 2 cents
     
  6. Roject

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    I recommend these VSTs:
    - Serum, Massive, FM8, Surge, Addictive Drums 2
    - Izotope Trash 2, CamelPhat 3, FabFilter Saturn 2, Guitar Rig 5, NI Driver

    These Videos:







     
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    And these videos with Noisia:





     
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    4 the lulz
     
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    good videos
     
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    Wow Summer school was just served Bang!!!! I grabed all of them and will now enroll :)
     
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    Music is the food for the accended
     
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    oelalmas Noisemaker

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    T-mech does some great ones on bass design, amongst lots of other things

    heres a playlist
     
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    There are like bazillion sample and preset packs for DNB.
    For this Noisia type dnb, I don't think that it matters that much what you use, because you inevitably need to spend lots of time mixing and processing the sounds to get thick and coherent timbre instead of mess.
    Serum or Phase Plant should be good enough, because you may not even need external effects...
    Still, from commercial standpoint, this is probably one of the worst dnb subgenres.
    I suggest producing more melodic style dnb (or at least featuring such sections in your neuro dnb songs, if you want to appeal to the public).
     
  15. acatnamedharmony

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    Dan Larson's Noisia (style) course is well worth the buy. Someone posted his course on the sister site and instead of issuing a takedown he just said to follow his youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/Letssynthesize and to support his academy (paid courses): https://letsynthesize.teachable.com/

    I don't often have the money to be able to afford courses, however I'm really glad I did pay for it <3

    Also, really good Neuro patches are really hard to come by. Definitely learn to manipulate audio, resampling + much more. Feel free to reach out.
     
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  16. Valnar

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    sample your drums from vinyl like in oldschool hip hop, layer them, add heavy processing so they bang
    use synth VSTs that are the DnB industry standard (i can just guess since i dont know much about that genre... maybe massive?)
    use samples from obscure sample packs like vocal lines that you chop up and sound mangle
     
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    You mean adding another drums which fit into the first ones or adds into it individual shots like kick, snare, hi-hats etc.?
     
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    Guys recommending VSTs or saying use this tool or that, i'm sorry to say but that is the wrong advice and incorrect way to teach...

    No tool is going to save you or make you a better musician. Learning fundamentals of computer music production will save you and help alot.

    It is important first to learn good audio engineering and learning how to make music using a daw and getting used to that before anything, also gaining a good understanding of the way electronic music works in general will help alot.

    Understanding fundamentals will help you to analyse and understand various genres and the way certain basic sounds are built etc... it will enable you to assess the way things are done...

    That being said, making dnb, specifically neurofunk, isn't based off using this tool or that sample pack, it's based on understanding some fundamental production related things:

    For drums, alot of dnb utilises four bar breaks like 'amen break'. Of course, it doesn't have to be like that but its a general foundation drum rhythm to start off with...

    Usually good drums are processed using standard drum processing techniques that every electronic genre utilises, so learning good drum processing techniques and tricks will help with your drums.

    The snare backbeat is also a big part of dnb, so getting a solid snare sound that snaps does well for the genre...

    For bass, learning how to modulate and distort basslines and patterns in different ways and varying them helps alot...

    The bpm for dnb is usually from 160-170 bpm more or less...

    Good neurofunk like what Noisia does has a lot of variation and energy in the sound. They change it up alot within a short period of time to keep the excitement and interest going. Being too repetitive is generally not a good thing. You gotta switch it up alot, and that's always hard because it requires you to work more within a short space...

    dnb is literally what it is. Drums and Bass. The Drums have to be tight as well as the bass, they both need to be HARD! But creating hard needs good production skills. It isn't a simple matter of pushing up the levels...

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    There is a whole lot more of course but these are some basics, of course watch tutorials but not just on dnb; watch tuts on learning to produce music and sound design as well, cuz they are important.

    For layer and process intense genres like dnb, recording to audio but keeping the midi on hand within the same project will help alot... but the end arrangement layers should be audio....
     
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    The best advise I can give you is lay a refernace track down of a d&b song you like and dissect the arrangement. Place marker like intro, build up, drop, breakdown, outro ECT.. try and recreate the drum groove, melody, bass line, fx. This should give you a good foundation of how to create a specific arrangement.
    This is what I do, and frankly alot of artist do. This should give you good idea of what people use for arrangements
     
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  20. signalflow

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    I whole heartedly agree with this. You can give someone new all the tools they need to succeed but if they don't have the base foundation, they'll just be lost and make garbage.
     
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    SOME OF YOUR D&B INFLUENCE
    ???
     
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