Any good guide, tips, tricks about Orchsteral out there

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  1. Lao

    Lao Newbie

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    Hello guys

    Im looking for good guide, tutorials,tips and tricks about orchester. I know a little bit about it but not so much, but I want to go deeper and want to learn more about it. I want to know how to get a real,epic, realistic Orchestral Sounds in my daw. Start from Viola to Cello, How to panning this sounds, What kind of Effect to used, how to programm the instruments to make it sounds real. And whats the key of making Orchetsral Sounds like e.g. Hans Zimmer

    Any tips are welcome. And what library would you commend. Thx in advance


    Lao
     
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  3. Studio 555

    Studio 555 Producer

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    @ Lao,

    I'll start by the end of your Request, and as follows :

    The Key for that... well, maybe you should call yourself 'Hans Zimmer', isn't !!! *yes* :rofl:


    For this, you can have a look at the following Images that depicts a 'Real' Symphonic Orchestra, and above all, the (important) positions of each Instrument :

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    This can give you an idea of how to 'pan' your desired (used) Instruments along the 'Stereo Field' of your Project(s)...


    Other Articles that can be of great interest for you :

    'How to Achieve Realistic Spatial Imaging Using Kontakt'

    'VSL’s Spatial Placement Secret Weapon' ('Vienna Symphonic Library')


    About the 'Effects'... well, try to make the 'whole' sound as natural as possible, so maybe don't overuse some kind of 'Effects' ! *yes*


    If you're a 'Kontakt' User, it exists several Great Libraries that are really well done. *yes*
    Rightly, some are oriented toward 'Epic', 'Cinematic',... stuff, and of course, these sound very realistic, mainly due that these were created from the playing/performances of 'Real' Symphonic Orchestras and 'Real' Classical Musicians. *yes*


    Below, you'll find some examples of specific Libraries as it seems you're looking for :

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    ...more similar Libraries exist as well, so good Quest !!! :thumbsup:
     
  4. mono

    mono Audiosexual

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    This came out about 3 weeks ago

    udemy Adventures in Classical Music TUTORiAL

    You’ll begin with an introduction to the various elements of music -- for example,
    melody, rhythm, pitch and harmony – to give you the basics and vocabulary
    to understand and appreciate any type of music.
    You’ll then explore the History of Classical Music
    through its various stylistic periods,
    from medieval chant right up to the current cutting edge.
    Anyone interested in classical music will benefit from this course.

    ill send you a pm :wink:

    you shoud read a bit here as well and download the midi files

    http://audiosex.pro/index.php?/topic/15093-are-there-any-orchestral-templatesprojects-avialable-for-free-or-saleespecially-for-ableton-live/page__p__101030__fromsearch__1#entry101030
     
  5. Bunford

    Bunford Audiosexual

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    If you are interested in making orchestral music, VI Control should be you go-to forum. Even Hans Zimmer is a member there!

    VI Control
     
  6. junh1024

    junh1024 Rock Star

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    I can suggest this book: http://www.amazon.com/Acoustic-MIDI-Orchestration-Contemporary-Composer/dp/0240520211 in regards to panning, EQ, and MIDI CC. It gets quite detailed, with mutiple panning diagrams PER SECTION of the orchestra (usually), and WHY. It's also available on audioz.eu .
     
  7. Gramofon

    Gramofon Producer

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    http://www.vi-control.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3614067&no=1#3614067

    As for the sound itself, I don't think there's a 100% right way to do it. You'll have to experiment and practise.
     
  8. mrpsanter

    mrpsanter Audiosexual

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    Regarding the libraries, you might also consider the Spitfire stuff which is IMHO top notch.
     
  9. mrpsanter

    mrpsanter Audiosexual

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    Thanks Bunford,

    I didn't knew about this forum, seems interesting.
     
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