Angel Lights - Added new content and I am looking for feedback / general thoughts.

Discussion in 'Work in Process' started by JohnnyBoy023, Jan 29, 2025.

  1. reticular

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    It is the wierdest thing, i just dont understand how you blew your thread up man, but on the other hand, good for you and hope you excell (maybe new google algo thought you were Boris.B... ;) )

    I mean, feedbacks is good and all, education too, but you see how tough is to position the "sound" even if you got all the things going including the wild view count, there´s plenty of producers who had barely highschool but a great taste and focus that translated to people that listen certain genre of music, so dont be afraid to swap out drums completely, use differend bass synth and so on...i mean, maybe the tracks sound so "engineered" and pure math that it has something missing(my honest feel response to it), almost like an AI "feel" to it..i dont think education is anything that separates you so i would not be relying on it, i´m not downplaying it, but use it as a secret weapon, dudes making bangers with very little knowledge, competition vs art...it is a wierd opposite relation to it, maybe when you define your art you can chase the views but who knows.

    I saw some interview of Brian Eno, at one point he used 100€ monitors that never went under 80hz and had them under the samplers/reverbs on the desk..

    Maybe you´re cleaning it too much, beating every single "spike" of life, doing too much.. nothing negative, you seem hard working, so keep going!
     
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    Im going to jump to the quote "AI Feel" look at my sondcloud, i make a track a day or so, sometimes a week goes by and then i finish some more, i got accused before in this thread actually i believe read it, ultimately i shared my projekt file, and then there was silence. So AI feel is just a wierd comment,

    Regarding the feedback i do switch up things all the time, i'm making my own presets and i'm equally searching for presets in Nexus and Ompisphere mostly.

    I make music 24/7 basically, the AI comments is just an insult, i have every project file ready to go. Ive asked ChatGPT a couple of questions, thats how much AI i ever used, my music is coming from me and ill prove it if i have too, there is an example of this already back in the thread. Lets just say i never heard from him again.

    Also you learn as you go, i appreciate the feedback coming in, it makes me think different about my composing, which is a good thing. Stay objective i guess.

    Anyway thanks for your input, appreciate it!
     
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  3. reticular

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    I dont think you do anything with the AI at all, no need to feel insulted, if i meant it in any way it would be as "too clean", "too perfect" in a sense, mix wise. Read it again and you´ll see what i meant.
    You´re doing a good job so dont bother explaining people on forums whatever they hook on, i´m just as bold and blatant to say how i hear it coz i´m a "newcomer" into mastering and i´ve built speakers more than 20 years ago, i can hear fckn capacitor being swapped in a circut and i´ve heard a lot of techno, so if it helps it helps, if not.. just keep going. People´s opinions dont matter to a degree.. at all. Boris is Boris, you are you!
     
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    Oh okey, my bad:)

    Yeah Boris is my main influense but there is others too and also i like to just make music clean with no reference and found that to be more creative, kind of winging it as i go. Boris has complete control over all aspects of making music so referensing him is hard AF, ive done a couple of successful "mix a like", nr 2 and 3 are some examples.

    Main thing is to have fun and experiment, Boris quote aswell ;)
     
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    Mixing wise ive gotten pretty good at it, so if it sounds clean its just good house keeping, but i have alot of tracks on my SC page thats clusterfucked, getting a good mix is easier if you have less sounds, and so i try too keep my tracks to a minimum
     
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    New track, any thoughts about the low end?
     
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    But I would prefer it if there were just a short pause between the loud passages.
    This longer, quieter fade-out is too long for me; it's a bit awkward when you dance to it.
    Why don't you make a version 2 or 3 of it?
     
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    Hi :)

    I see yes i usually do that, let there be a bar of silence before drop, didn't feel right this time, im gonna make a new track today anyway, try to get some more melodies in there, i feel like all the elements is OK you know one can always improve here and there, but my melodic content is lacking, so i need to adress that. and its a bit hard, i have a good theory understanding but i cant play the keyboard well, so i have to kinda feel my way forward, sometimes it works and a lot of times not so much, but the Low end was good or is it too much? Went pretty hard on the bass.

    Thanks for your input! I wont be remaking the track im starting a new projekt and this time i need melodic content so im working on that!
    I will share the results, can take some time to do it :) but i have taken your feedback into account, thank you!
     
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    The young man has understood, he's working on himself and will overcome this problem too. It's called musical development, and remember, not everything works out the way you imagine! The journey is the destination.
     
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    Hehe yes i have, i can agree, its also important to have fun, sometimes it just feels like you would go to a job and just work, i guess it is a job but its important to have fun, it gives more energy and creative solutions.

    And failing is disappointing but part of the process!
     
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    If you fail, you should focus on the things you're good at, otherwise you'll give up completely. That's life. Sometimes the sun shines, sometimes it rains, sometimes it's fun, sometimes it isn't. Either way, that's life...! If you want to make yourself more popular, give people a few likes.
     
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    I dont mind a challange, but you can get overwhelmed then its a good thing to focus on what you are actually good at, takes time to improve in whatever you do!
     
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    Rome wasn't built in a day...!

    Q: What inspires you as a musician?

    KS: Sorry, but this is the usual question that everybody asks me (and probably all other artists) during my whole life, and every time I have no answer.

    Q: Sampling offers virtual unlimited freedom of creation in sculpturing sounds. However, once created they may be overused (by the same artist or others) and diminish their impact. What are other elements of conception that could make the electronically generated music not become obsolete? (classical music for instance uses harmony, counterpoint etc. as carriers of creation and originality, which are also taken further through virtuous interpretation).

    KS: Your (again very complicated) question is, ...a bit more simply pronounced: What makes music a "good music"? And my answer is: Music that does not bore the listener.
    To achieve this, is depending on the craft of the composer, or of the performer of the music. It's like in most professions: Be as good as possible. And your "customers" will be happy.

    By the way: The statement that this or that new technology gives finally "unlimited freedom" (in this case: of creation in sculptural sounds) is a bit shortsighted. A good music (or just good sounds) comes not because of a new technique.

    New technology is of course also (and much more) used to create the usual trash. The music in most radio programmes shows it every minute. "Freedom" can be very irritating and confusing. The craft of an artist is not to make everything which is possible in this "freedom". Instead, he chooses a certain form or frame, and he exhibits his art in this chosen form. Which is, more or less, the opposite of total freedom. Improvement comes from discipline, not from chaos.

    Q: Which are, in your opinion, the main attributes of the 3rd millennium artist in the context of the pop culture acquiring new dimensions as digital-virtual culture?

    KS: Sorry, but I cannot and will not answer to this. I am not a scientist, not a historian, not a philosopher, not a prophet, etc. I'm (just) a musician. I find it remarkable that journalists very often seem to think that an artist must answer all kinds of questions which have nothing to do with what the artist is actually doing, and that he should have answers and solutions for all problems, happenings and fashions of this world, even about the unknown future. I know that many "artists" give these answers. But I like the way Bob Dylan is dealing with this little problem.

    Q: As the composer of this album, where would you situate Moonlake?

    KS: It's not me who should tell the listeners what it is, in which category he should put it. A music that must be explained by the artist - this is absolutely not my cup of tea. Just look around what kind of music needs plenty of explanation. General rule: The more words, the more unpleasant or boring the music :)
    In my case, and Moonlake: The music is there. As an offer. The listener can listen and decide. Not me.

    Source / Klaus Schulze Interviews: www.klaus-schulze.com/interv/ina510.htm
     
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    A vocoder for the voice would be an idea!

    TAL Vocoder
     
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    Something that i always thought about when trying to make my own kicks, is how several producers stuck on using the same damn kick on every track(at least in the first couple of years after the first break). One is Guetta, the other is Ian Pooley, and that one kick for me is a kick from the tape but it has wild low end, so i tried figuring out the "clicky" kick...anyway, if you´re up for it i´m down for a collab, melodies too
     
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    Im looking for Wormhole by Zynaptiq for my vocals, just sad they cracked alot of them recently but not wormhole, vocooders i have a few, mixing vocals and pitching / granular works fine. But its a good idea, cus i _cannot_ sing :)
     
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    I use a lot of different kicks but i have a few go to kicks, maybe 10 kicks that is superb, then i have about 70 more good ones. Kicks are the only samples i "sample". I have a lot of samples tho so when i make music it's time consuming finding the right ones, but i think its good to have a lot of samples rather than few good ones. There so many samples out there so i only save premium stuff.

    Collab yeah can discuss that tomorrow, if you can make melodies i D minor / F Minor, like the first one i can use it. one melodies can be more "percussive" and another one more driving kind of like an arp.

    You could also harmonize several pieces and then ill use what fits. I suck at melodies, i can do it but it's not flawless. I am currently working on improving melodic content in music.

    Regards
     
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    Hey did some more tracks, any feedback?

    New tracks:
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    3. A bit dark any toughts?

     
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    I have nothing to say about the mix and related issues, it's really great. Just one thing about your style. Your music is harsh and after a while it makes me feel bored and tired listening to it. Not that there's a problem with the production. No, the production is good, but the style is violent. One feels fear and helplessness. It doesn't give a moment to rest, and the person listening feels like his/her life is in danger. Maybe if you play this in a club, people will start dancing with fear and trembling.
     
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    Thats an interesting take. Yeah my style is hard, its just the way i produce atm. I do have lighter tracks, but fewer than harder tracks.
    I guess i need to make more melodic music, there is a lot of hard synths going on, if you think track 1 is hard, listen to Different, that is... hard stuff :)

    I like it, it can be improved but its what i produce and it comes naturally to me. If i was in a happier state, my music would probably be happier :)

    Thnx for input!
     
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