What's EON?

 

you shouldnt need a forum post to know this...thats a standart procedur in legal stuff ..you signed a contract.
i guess most dont even know whats written in there .

thats heavy ....shows it goes beyond the old www tricksery mentioned above

someone did a cross reffering to a telephone provider and i said nowadays the biggest energy provider in germany using shady tactics too .i put it mild , better that is .

 

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I still believe Bandcamp is the best, tho it doesn't publish to Spotify, but if people like your music they will buy it there.

I do like Audius and Audiomack for streaming both are free
Newgrounds is cool for posting WIPs that you can hide and show to your friends/feedbacks

 

Man it really sucks. I hope you can sort this out through e-mail.

 

You can't take some thread like that as entirely factual or anything. You can probably find very similar posts like that about Distrokid, and every other "distributor" too. But that only means you should take them with a grain of salt, and not discount them entirely. There is typically some basis in reality, with that many users chiming in and saying to never use the service in question either.

Most users of such services don't even make their own money back. Their terms and conditions are completely one sided. Even their domain being registrar'd in BIOT should cause some additional caution, if the company is not actually from "British Indian Ocean Territory". It's like a ship sailing under a third countries flag to skirt maritime laws. "We wanted a cute domain name" is not a reason to do that for a real company, or at least not a shady one. There are enough red flags there, where you would Google, type in the name of the site and "scam", and find enough information to realize you are dealing with something/someone may be questionable, at best.

Here is a nice line from in their TOS:
Amuse may terminate the Agreements or suspend your access to the Amuse Service(s) at any time for any and no reason, including in the event of your actual or suspected unauthorized use of the Amuse Service(s) and/or any content, or non-compliance with the Agreements.

 

I read through their ToS too and their lawyers have everything well and truly sewn up.. The user has absolutely no leg to stand on in court. Even the best lawyers on the planet would say "you signed it, therefore you agreed to those terms.."

 

It remembers me this (not so long ago) with Spotify :
https://www.reddit.com/r/musicprodu...potify_will_no_longer_pay_artists_for_tracks/

And as we are on a music forum ...

 

everywhere i look i see only shit these days...
that this is legal nowadays says all.....

but also like everywhere its the people play along and let it happen , so here we go .

 

Sadly, all my music was deleted today, from every platform, YouTube, Spotify, etc.
Never answered the email.

 

Distokid recently fucked me like this. I recently released 10 Halloween albums on CDbaby andhave not had a problem.

 

The subscription model can be painful.

 

Well , i thought cdbaby could be the answer, but it seems that is the same.
https://www.reddit.com/r/musicprodu.../my_cd_baby_account_is_closed_please_help_me/
Anyone can suggest a good one ?

 

With no reason cited? Now I'm sorry that I use Amuse, which I joined last winter. I'd been away from digital distributors for years, ever since bad experiences with TubeCore, Distrokid, RouteNote, and others had soured me to using them. One was a vending platform that deleted many albums of music because I hadn't logged-in in a few months, with their assuming that I'd abandoned the platform - without first asking me if I were still alive, let alone informing me that deletion were imminent if they didn't hear from me in a certain amount of time. Another service, an online-radio server, deleted hours of my music because they didn't believe that I had created it, since it was so stylistically diverse. I'd discovered this when I tried listening to the station and there was no music available, and I had to repeatedly contact them to get them to tell me what had happened.

Yeah, Soundcloud. Yeah, Bandcamp. The former nickel-and-dimes you for tiered features; the latter charges 15% + (3% PayPal fee) for paid downloads - and neither is a streamlined streaming app whereby people can dial-in your music while driving in their cars.

For almost 15 years, I've chronicled, in forums, blogs and such, my bad experiences with online distributors and vendors, which had actually caused me some psychological trauma. Hence, my reticence to start up with one again. I don't understand why I can't just upload my music to Spotify directly. I stay off YouTube, despite that I can upload directly to it, for a number of reasons, but the main one being of principle, as YT is infamous for zapping content and accounts for ToS "violations" for whatever neurotic reason, as well as woke censorship – while not lifting a finger to zap content and accounts for obvious uploads of unauthorized material. (Saying, "I do not own the rights to this music," apparently makes it okay to do so?)

 

wtf
did you first upload on yt to copyright it and then there ?
i guess its a long hard to read contract .could be that you crossed them ...

 

Not really. Here's another related article, some people are probably already familiar with; but I was unaware of any outcome:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...he platform,was TuneCore's call, Spotify said.

 

I honestly have no idea what the issue is. It’s definitely not a copyright problem since I successfully uploaded each track to a YouTube channel without any trouble. My suspicion is that it could be something specific to Spotify.
Spotify has grown into such a powerful platform that it’s hard to know what’s happening behind the scenes—the streams, the deals, everything feels out of reach. It feels like trying to communicate with a distant authority, where we, as small creators, are left guessing. If you follow the clues, they all seem to lead back to Spotify.


I can’t say for sure, but it’s just a feeling that all signs seem to point back to Spotify. It’s only my personal theory, but the pieces seem to fit.

 

Trick here is they NEVER say WHAT "ToS" you crossed : they just say "you crossed it"
And you need to sue them to get the reason.

they are dictators ... and they know it

Youtube, spotify or whatever platform

"YouTube Community Guidelines & Policies" my a**

 

Finally, I received an email from AMUSE detailing the reason for the deletion of my account, and all the songs, which, as we recall, date back to 2019,(never accepted a new Terms of use) meaning five years ago.

The following is the exact text from the email:

We regret to inform you that we have found proof that some of your releases are made partially or fully using AI. Since this is against our Terms of Use, we have closed your account.

This decision is final and will not be reconsidered.

Thank you for your understanding,
Amuse Team

The terms of use they refer is a new one, I never accepted.
In reality, for the vocals in some cases, I used Dreamtonics Synthesizer V Pro, which is a voice synthesizer that, of course, uses artificial intelligence.
I’m not sure if they are referring to that or something else, as they don’t specify having any detection mechanism or algorithm, and, in fact, such a mechanism doesn’t exist yet.

Anyway, I believe that subscription-based publishing services already have the worst possible reputation.
Now, they’ve only added to it.

 

And they probably detected AI ... by using AI algos

 

Exactly, by the way, there are many music plugins on the market that include "AI," "Intelligent," or "Smart" in its name. It's a contradiction that, while many are trying to sell their music products with AI, distributors like AMUSE could say to have detected it and reject it.
By the way, the exact algorithm used to detect AI remains a secret, and not even OpenAI knows about it—it's supposedly stored in Area 51 alongside a UFO