Ample Guitars 3.5 issue

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  1. Wolfang

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    I think I did the first one several years ago. I'll check the rest of them out. Thanks!
    The interesting part I found this time is that the performance of Studio One is better than Reaper. I've thought Reaper is the lightest DAW ever, but it is not. Reaper wasn't able to handle around 12 Ample guitars, but Studio One was.
     
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  2. BEAT16

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    1.) Let me explain it differently ASIO is the interface.There is for people who have no audio interface the ASIO4ALL.

    There are also ASIO drivers for every audio interface from the manufacturer - they are very superior to the ASIO4ALL and always have a better performance or better latency values.That's why you buy an audio interface and always use the manufacturer's drivers.

    2.) What is an ASIO driver and does it make a difference to audio latency? (May 10, 2021by jerry23)

    If you've worked with digital and electric musical instruments, you've probably heard of ASIO. If not, and you've come across the acronym, read on to learn what ASIO is and how it works.

    What is ASIO?

    ASIO stands for Audio Stream Input/Output.
    ASIO is a sound card driver protocol from the German music company Steinberg, which also develops Cubase, the popular audio workstation. ASIO is a household name for anyone who has worked with digital audio recording as it offers music producers the ability to gain direct access to their audio devices.

    Most professional sound cards and production software come with their own version of ASIO preinstalled. However, you can also install ASIO drivers separately.

    ASIO drivers are currently only available on Windows, but an experimental version called WeinASIO is available that allows you to install ASIO on Linux systems via Wine.

    ASIO isn't available on macOS, but this is because Mac systems use an API called Core Audio, which makes the services provided by ASIO pointless since Core Audio doesn't have the disadvantages of Windows DirectSound.
    Related: Use Wine on Ubuntu to Run Windows Software

    External audio devices and DirectSound

    Whenever you connect audio devices to your Windows PC: you are connected to your audio device via DirectSound, which acts as an intermediate signal path. This means that every signal sent to or received from the audio device goes through DirectSound.
    DirectSound's role as an intermediary between you and your audio device gives you many features that often prove redundant for the professional user. This is because the processes and layers that DirectSound passes an audio signal through create one of the worst things a music producer wants to deal with: latency.

    When you have your instrument connected to your computer, you expect a note to play whenever you play it, not half a second later. Maintaining tempo or articulating a rhythm becomes more difficult than it should be when dealing with unwanted latency.
    In digital audio recording, the audio is first recorded in an analog format. It is then converted into a binary format in which it can be stored on a hard drive. Between these two main processes lies a bunch of additional processes mostly related to DirectSound.

    Each additional process that the audio signal has to go through adds a small amount to the overall latency, and when these processes are bundled together, the latency becomes significant. This significant latency, in turn, becomes annoying when you record music with your device.

    Now that you know what causes the latency, you can probably conclude that one obvious way to reduce latency is to short-circuit the extra layers that DirectSound forces the audio signal through. You are absolutely right, and ASIO is doing just that.

    What does ASIO actually do?

    ASIO allows audio software to gain direct access to the audio device by bypassing the normal audio path through DirectSound. By skipping DirectSound's unnecessary layers, ASIO eases speed limitations on the route from your audio device to your computer, significantly reducing latency.

    Aside from the low latency, ASIO allows you to show all available channels on an audio device and not just the stereo channel Windows shows you. This feature allows you to unlock the multi-channel capabilities of your audio device.

    A final major benefit of ASIO is that it provides bit-transparent output. The audio signals received via ASIO are not compressed or resampled, which means that you get higher fidelity than when using DirectSound.

    Skip the nonsense

    With ASIO, you can skip the many unnecessary layers of DirectSound and get high-fidelity, low-latency audio while still having access to multi-channel on your audio device. However, ASIO alone is not enough to make music. You also need good software to do this.
    This article was originally downloaded from makeuseof.com .
     
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  3. BEAT16

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    You should choose a DAW that you are comfortable with. It is very subjective. Everybody has different experiences.
    There are Reaper users who swear by Reaper. Ableton users swear by Ableton and FL Studio users swear by FL Studio. Studio one users swear by studio One.

    What is latency in music production?

    Audio latency is one of the things that you will pay more and more attention to, once you're getting more skilled at music production.

    Latency is the time delay it takes for your hardware and software equipment to read the sound signal that's being played, process it, and play it into your speakers.

    To be more in-depth, when an audio signal is being played on any device, let's say microphone or guitar, for example, that sound is in analog form and being delivered into your system. Your software then converts it into a digital signal in order to be processed, and then changes it back into an analog, for it to be played into your speakers/monitors.

    This whole process, having low processing power in your machine, not having the correct settings and tools optimized for lowest latency output, and a couple of other factors, are all potential reasons that might cause a high latency.

    Having a better setup will of course help in reducing latency, but there are other things you can do to improve your latency.

    One of the most important things you need to do if you want to start producing music is to get an audio interface. Buying an audio interface is going to be a lot more reliable than using the cheap sound card your pc or laptop has built-in. It also allows zero-latency recording, with its built-in "direct monitor" option. Just remember to update all of the drivers for it first.

    Buffer size is the amount of time spent for processing the audio, measured in ms. Installing an audio driver like Asio will give you the option to increase or decrease your sample rate. Having a lower sample rate is going to improve your buffer size, but it's a lot more taxing on your system.

    Use the lowest sample rate when you are recording, and set it to a higher rate when mixing, this will spend less of your computer's resources, and allow you to use more plugins without stutters and errors.

    https://transverseaudio.com/tip/what-is-latency-in-music-production
     
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  4. FinalMasterv7.3

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    you dont need these installers, if you have a previous version with any installer - you can copy that installer to the folder without an installer and it will function at its installer.

    i typed so often installer i almost got a stroke, damn.
     
  5. brazytupac

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    i want to upgrade from version 3.0. so far no one has posted the 3.5 versions on audio site.

    so i need them
     
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  6. Wolfang

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    Studio One and Reaper are my last bet. I've been trying many DAWs, but they were not my kind. What I prefer is lightweight, intuitive, low-end PC friendly and low price. Studio One is perfect for my choice. Reaper is also great but only lack of intuitive. Btw, I just found the Ignite amp was the main problem in Reaper. Since I replaced with other amp sim, it plays smoothly.
    I set the buffer setting the same for both of them.
    I have an audio interface. As I mentioned, Presonus Audiobox96 is my interface.
    Anyway, I really appreciate your advice :)
     
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    Hello @Wolfgang, just delete Reaper and concentrate only on your Studio One. So you save time and a lot of trouble.
    Also your Studio Box is a PreSonus product and is optimized for Studio One.
    I think you have tested enough and wasted time and can now relax and use your Studio One.

    PreSonus - Optimizing Your Computer for Audio - Windows 10
    https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-...Optimizing-Your-Computer-for-Audio-Windows-10
     
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    Thank you @SineWave for the tip, I have updated link.
     
  10. Wolfang

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    Actually, I do focus on Studio One since last year. The only reason I still use Reaper is for test and the old projects I made before. I don't use Reaper for a new project any longer. As you discussed, it's a waste of time and energy. But Reaper is really good for testing something like this case. I'm still amazed of its lightweight and optimization, and Studio One is getting better and better.
     
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    on the contrary i just updated mine and the cpu usage has reduced significantly, the guitars with amps (AGLP e.t.c) used to take 50% on my cpu , now all the plugins take below 20%
     
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  12. Wolfang

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    Interesting. I should test them again.
     
  13. VincentCool

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    need for help ,everytime i update ample guitar ,all my old project file ample guitar cant reload,and lose preset etc,
    Studio One can change the vsti ID ,but how?

    thx for help...
     
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    If possible, save your self-created presets in Studio One. Preferably as *.FXP (preset) or as VST3 preset.

    Create a folder " Ample Sound - My Presets " for example and save your self-made presets there. So the work is not lost. I would save the folder with your presets to a CD or to a second hard drive. Simply load your preset, with the Studio One " Import " function, into your Ample Sound VSTi. I recommend this procedure for all plugins.

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    Resolving VST Plug-in Conflicts
    www.soundonsound.com/techniques/resolving-vst-plug-conflicts
     
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  15. vuldegger

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    ample p gives me 2%cpu on an old i5-2500 on reaper,win7x64. windows is heavily tweaked. nothing distorts, nothing heavy. all good here
     
  16. VincentCool

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    BEAT16 thx you so much,
    but i no save preset when i update Ample sound,
    and also terrible need to reopen all old file to backup peset .

    the better way is redownload old ample sound ,or change the vsti ID form Studio One,
    i try edit Vsti ID from Studio One project file but no luck,dont know izzit missing something....
     
  17. BEAT16

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    Delete the current Ample version and install the version that worked. Then save your presets in Studio One as FXP or VST3.
    Then when you install the latest Ample version, you can use your saved presets again.

    Any reasonable user also saves their work as presets. Another way is, if you are working on projects, not to do updates.
     
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    thank you very much for your reply
     
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