Ambrosia - "Biggest Part of me" Synth Brass

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    MokuseiFolf13 Ultrasonic

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    A sample of the sound I'm looking for

    Greetings! Would anyone care to tell me what synth is likely to produce this sound? If I had to guess, it'd have to be a Prophet-5 of some kind. Above this paragraph, I've provided a hyperlink containing the raw synth stem (on YouTube) to share. Not many a forum dare tell the equipment used to make such a lovely love ballad such as Ambrosia's "Biggest Part of Me", except for the rather hilariously inaccurate takes the Google AI made thinking it was the work of a Yamaha DX7 and/or a Roland D-550.

    Any and all help is greatly appreciated. I work mostly with plugins, not so much real hardware (yet). God bless.
     
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    The DX-7 was released in 1983, and the D-550 was released in 1987. The track in question was released in 1980. So yes, those are wrong. Which is probably why ChatGPT says it is a Oberheim OB-X, OB-XA, or the Prophet 5 which you already guessed.

    This is the recipe it gave me:
    That’s a classic question — the synth brass in Ambrosia’s “Biggest Part of Me” (1980) is a great example of late-70s/early-80s polysynth brass programming. It’s warm, slightly nasal, with that unmistakable Oberheim/Prophet vibe.

    Here’s how to recreate it:

    1. The Source Synths
    • Most likely Oberheim OB-X / OB-Xa or possibly a Sequential Prophet-5. Both were staples in 1980, and their brassy poly patches define that era.

    • Any modern analog or VA (Prophet Rev2, OB-X8, Arturia OB-Xa V, u-he Diva, TAL-U-NO-LX for a Juno flavor, or even your Virus TI2 in analog mode) can nail this.
    2. Oscillators
    • 2 Oscillators per voice (detuned slightly):
      • OSC1: Sawtooth wave

      • OSC2: Pulse wave (square, with pulse width around 40–50%)
    • Detune OSC2 just a little flat/sharp for thickness.
    3. Filter
    • Low-pass filter (24 dB/oct or 12 dB if available)

    • Cutoff: medium, so you still hear brightness but not piercing.

    • Resonance: low to none.

    • Envelope Amount: moderate — the filter opens up a bit on attack.
    4. Filter Envelope
    • Attack: ~20–40 ms (not instant, gives it that “brassy” swell).

    • Decay: ~600 ms – 1 sec.

    • Sustain: medium-low (brass “settles down” after the bite).

    • Release: similar to decay or slightly shorter.
    5. Amp Envelope
    • Attack: short (~10–20 ms, but not clicky).

    • Decay: medium.

    • Sustain: medium-high (keeps body under chords).

    • Release: medium (enough to sound natural when keys are released).
    6. Modulation
    • LFO (subtle vibrato): Route sine LFO to pitch, very slow rate, low depth.

    • Optionally add PWM modulation for more “life” in the sound.
    7. Performance
    • Play in block chords, staccato and sustained — the patch comes alive with chord voicing. Ambrosia used big jazzy chord stacks, which makes it sound fuller.

    • Layer with subtle chorus or ensemble (Oberheim had that natural detuned richness; if your synth doesn’t, use a chorus plugin).
    8. Optional Effects
    • A tiny bit of plate reverb or a short room — just enough air, not drowning it.

    • Some engineers back then would add a touch of compression to keep the brass “punchy” in the mix.
    On your Virus TI2, I’d suggest:

    • Init patch → 2 oscillators: Saw + Pulse.

    • Detune ~5–7 cents.

    • Filter: LP24, cutoff ~75, env amount ~50.

    • Filter env: A=25 ms, D=700 ms, S=40, R=500 ms.

    • Amp env: A=15 ms, D=400 ms, S=80, R=500 ms.

    • Add chorus (Virus classic mode).

    • Light vibrato via LFO1 to pitch.
     
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    MokuseiFolf13 Ultrasonic

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    Thank you! I'll check this out, perhaps I'll transcribe the parameters from the reciept into Arturia OB-X, maybe G-Force OB (what with the official endorsement from Oberheim, heh).
     
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    Prophet 5.
     
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