Ambiosonics & Binaural

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  1. bobhoskins

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    I've always been fascinated with space in relation to sound design and, although I'm working in stereo, I find using ambisonic or binaural software like Sennheiser's AMBEO or Anaglyph add a level of depth and distance like no other. It's obviously missing the true 3D effect it's intended to create, but from a design perspective, makes for some interesting listening. I wonder what people's thoughts are on the topic and if anyone has used these methods in their own productions.
     
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    Do you mean ambisonics? ambisonics is a paradigm like surround or OBA & it can be rendered to speakers or headphones. Any 2D+ content rendered to HRTF for headphones can be called binaural, and you can take any kind of input, including ambisonics, surround or OBA, or stereo/mono.

    Just like the other 20 listed here

    A bit finicky

    I prefer to work with physical speakers, like 5.0 surround, or 15.1 surround
     
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    Junh1024 is an expert on this, it gets deep.

    Personally I find a lot of the ambisonic plugins useless with how they warp and distort the sound. Phase is a huge issue and things generally start to sound tinny.

    edit, I meant regarding stereo. Surround mixing is different.
     
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    Interesting thread :wink:
     
  6. bobhoskins

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    I did mean ambisonics, my apologies. It's all still new territory for me.
    Although i'm interested in the concept of 3D audio in performances, at the moment I just like the idea of using the tools for something they weren't fully designed for and seeing what comes out of it.
    I appreciate that clarity can be lost in some cases, but clarity isn't always necessary for interesting sounds. At least not for me.
    I'm finding them quite fun to use.
     
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    Usually people use multiple speakers with discrete input. There have been commercial performances, with 5.0 surround in the past, or with a custom layout. This is usually 2D. Because it's 2 axis: width & depth.

    For academia, they love ambisonics with 8-30 speakers. 2D or 3D. 3d is 3 axis: width & depth & height.
     
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    I remember seeing something a while ago with Max Cooper performing on a sound stage that was 3D. It was a custom built job, but I can’t remember who did it.
     
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    This is the one...

     
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    Apart from the fact that the fourth dimension would be time. How difficult can it be to count to three?
     
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    It's like those 'rides' at amusement parks with wobbly chairs and a big cinema screen. Apparently spraying you with compressed air is considered 4D.
     
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