5% of all 0-day exploits reported this year were Apple, while Microsoft took a 20% share of the pie. Although I don't totally believe those figures, the disparity seems to be true.

source: https://www.zero-day.cz/database/?s...Filter_pf[YEAR_TO]=2020&arrFilter_pf[SEARCH]=

 

The bizarre, shocking thing about that is that people still use... Internet explorer! 8O

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Also, that Apple haven't fixed 0-days from 2018! Bo

Just thank god Flash is going to be gone, soon!

 

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Some of my clients insist that we still support IE 10 which drives my engineers crazy, and these customers work in an industry where they should know better about security.

 

I'm quoting a few sections in one here because I can't be arsed chopping up all your long rant into separate sections.

OSX/BSD or whatever is by definition more secure though and using the very example you like so much to quote ransomware - PCs can and do catch it easily via a drive-by website or multiple other avenues (phishing email, fake ad on website and so on). Compare this to Mac with OSX where with the recent and highly publicised ransomware where users had to actually physically run an installer with full admin rights and install it manually themselves with the malware hidden in the installer to catch it. So yes that was a warez packaged piece of software (Little Snitch being one) so most Mac owners would never ever even have the chance of getting it to begin with. That's a different ballpark entirely from the average PC ransomware incident.

Even with a complex exploit which this is which a) requires a hacker with significant skills and b) actual physical contact to your machine a Mac is still a fuckton more secure than your average PC. It's the very definition of not trivial to bypass the security they have in place.

Do you encrypt your Windows system drive and all your data cos I sure as shit don't know a single PC owner who does.

I love folks who diss Apple gear whilst sat on their Android phones and PCs with antivirus and malware shit running because of all the available exploits or their main studio DAW machines not on the internet cos its 'too risky'.

Plus you don't wanna 'concern yourself' with PC security because its 'garbage' yet in your (extremely unqualified ) opinion Apple security is shit and you're posting random panic posts like OMFG ITS THE END OF THE WORLD STUDIO OWNERS WILL HAVE TO REFORMAT THEIR MACHINE EVERY SESSION.

You guys crack me up - you're so beyond clueless technically about the actual software and hardware you're slagging off its almost funny.

 

Well, welcome to that, now. It seems like the response really is just a shrug? Ok, the warning is there - just hope everyone can think once about it. Maybe just Hackintosh in the future?

You seem convinced that it's solely a hardware problem, far too onerous for hackers to keep investigating. Reminds me a bit of how all exploits evolve. From solder to software.

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I don't have your faith in encryption, but that's because Bitlocker (sry to describe trash as being garbage!) Amongst other things.

 

this post is getting offtopic and more about trolling each other

 

Partly agree, I hope everyone has taken some precautions, supposed to be easy to do.

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I constantly feel like too many somebodies have stepped on too many butterflies in the past, and we're living in a surreal, alternate reality. I guess I'm just trying to distract myself away from more evidence that the unshakeable foundations (macs don't get haxx) aren't crumbling, that the 57th horseman of the apocalypse hasn't just ridden by! I just wish I hadn't watched that Axios interview ;____;

 

So every kiddie can haxx0r a typical privately used Windows machine from his basement in Russia over the internet in like 5 minutes since the beginning of time and do whatever the hell he wants with all your data and hardware while you don't even notice it. And he could haxx0r a mac when he breaks into your house personally. With a soldering iron. After taking your mac physically apart. And putting it back together. For hours. In case you don't use any third party encryption.

Are you serious?

 

Well, the Pangu team undoubtedly wanted the bounty for revealing the vulnerability. I expect they already know much more about exploiting Apple devices. Maybe from a high rise in China? We don't know the risks, but nobody prepares for the best.

If you're comfortable thinking that Macs don't get haxx, then that's fine. But bear in mind this isn't fixable without new hardware, there's a load of it to exploit at leisure. Apple haven't mentioned either noticing or any plans to fix this issue, to my knowledge.

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Given that there are still 0day exploits from 2018, the whole iOS 13 debacle etcs - they prolly have too much on their agenda?

 

Yes, it really was the best answer here, I know.

Always. From front to back.

 

Whilst the exploit requires complex physical access to the hardware (be that machine or phone) then it's not even worthy of a shrug IMO.

As for Hackintosh, once Apple move from Intel to ARM CPUs across the laptop/desktop range that's a whole other ballgame as well and we'll have to see long-term if that kills the Hackintosh scene entirely, which would also be a real shame as I was considering one to replace my ageing Mac Pro desktop machine. No doubt they'll be looking to patch this particular issue now its been made public in future hardware though regardless.

 

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As an Apple owner for about thirty years now, I can assure you, there's waaaaaaay more compelling reasons not to buy a Mac than its potential for a one-in-a-million hack on a chip that they're getting rid of, anyway. Two words: forced obsolescence. You buy a fast enough Windoze computer and you can use it for a long, long time. It's a sound investment, and also, a reasonably-priced one. You can buy whatever hardware you want and mod your computer forever. By design, Windoze supports all kinds of third-party hardware. It also supports software that's been around for decades. Meanwhile, you can no longer even crack open an Apple computer, and once your model falls off the support list for this year's OS, you can either throw it the fuck away or install Windoze on it and basically turn it into an overpriced PC. I'm still on Mojave, because once I upgrade to Catalina (which is the last OS I can upgrade to, by the way, because my 2012 MBP won't be able to run Big Sur), all my 32-bit software, including the drivers for my Mbox 3 Pro audio interface, will cease to function. I can't tell you how much money I've lost on legit software that became obsolete a year or so later because Apple changes up their shit so frequently, or how much software I was dependent on that the developers gave up on because they can't deal with Apple anymore (more than one dev site has suggested either not upgrading past Mojave or switching to Windoze). I don't think even Apple can keep up with their own shit at this point. They still haven't laid out all the specs for APFS! Which is kind of important for utility software like TechTool Pro or Disk Warrior.

My conundrum at this point is, either I plunk down a small fortune on a newer (though still used, because a brand-new model that is powerful enough to continue let me run audio and video software costs more than a used car) Mac and deal with both Catalina/Big Sur and the fact that I will have to take the new computer to an Apple specialist of some kind if I want to upgrade the RAM or hard drive, because they're both hard-wired to the motherboard now, or try to transition to a Windoze computer and deal with all those headaches. If you're on Windoze, STAY ON WINDOZE. Even ten years ago, it would have been worth it to switch, but now, it's just a total waste of time and money.

Apple ... what the fuck happened to you?!?

 

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Every Mac I've had over the last 20 years is still a standalone audio recording device and VST arsenal.
Obviously I only really use my most recent one, but the others have come in handy.
Point being, I would never throw anything away.
Each one is totally capable of being at the heart of a creative set-up.
But next hardware will definitely be for Hackintosh, for me anyway.

 

Most PC hardware has an expected life of 3-5 years at most (based on for example company depreciation calculations for the asset) - if you're expecting something to still run up to date software after 8+ years then IMO prepare to be disappointed. If you bought a desktop PC now I'd love to see you running the latest Windows version on it and it still be running well 8 years later as it almost certainly would be on OSX.

Plus 32-bit software is old, slow, limited in memory usage and so on. Welcome to the 21st century sooner or later you will have to bite the bullet and suck it up and move with the times. Whinging and bitching that you're going to lose that old software isn't just a fault of the hardware vendor but also the software provider for not upgrading that software in the first place (who often have newer synths they would prefer you to buy - also not the fault of Apple). Sooner or later Windows will do the same anyway and force the 64-bit move - half the moves Apple make (no optical drives in laptops anyone?) often become the norm anyway later.

As mentioned above Hackintosh is always the solution around that Apple hardware choice but time will tell if the move to ARM will allow that to still be an option. Oh and just as a FYI and I still have a 2011 Macbook Air which I use for browsing and it works as well now as the day we got it having had some 5 OSX version upgrades without a single reinstall. Try doing that on a Windows laptop ....

 

As a backend developer I've suffered IExplorer quite a lot, but designers/front-end devs... damn, I've seen a couple of them literally losing it

Oh dear, that's true and reasonable. Are you ok pal?

My PC is 11 years old, except:
GPU: 8 years old
SSD: 6 years old
PCIE USB3/SATA3 adapter: 6 years old
Four HDD have died (two in RAID 0 with three hard drives -insane-, one in RAID 0 with two drives, one in "normal" mode)

Windows requirements haven't changed since Windows Vista: 2GB RAM, 2Ghz Core 2 Duo.
And it's real. As long as you remove Windows 10 start menu and a some of bloat it works as fast as Windows 7 with same RAM usage.
Most programs still work with Windows 7.

I'm not Apple nor Windows fanboy.

 

On a tangent here...

With all the tit-for-tat games that the US president is playing with China, China have Apple by the balls because their products are manufactured in China.
China could easily sabotage Apple in many ways, hiking up production costs being one!

 

What I find hilarious is how Windows users keep trying (30+ years now) to instill fear and panic in Apple/Mac users!!
We just keep scoring films, produce music and make money, while you spend your time talking about us and how we should "watch out Apple users"!!!!!!!!

 

It's an interesting topic too. Not only the factories. Behind many (if not all at this point) ARM and AMD chips (and I think also NVidia's) is TSMC, Chinese (Taiwan) company that is the one that makes those already famous jumps to 7nm technology and stuff.
I'm not sure how much they design or simply implement but is a key player.

I think there's already interest to move factories to India, but you can't do it overnight.

 

At the end of the day, you could always make a Macquarium