AI Cloning Voice and instruments

RachProko · Jun 24, 2023

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Well, I liked your opinion, or I can say that I fully agree with your final point, which is that the real danger lies in whose hands this powerful tool, AI, is in. Sometimes, when I debate about AI, a very drastic example comes to mind. It's like a knife that can be used to cut food, carve wood, or harm another person. So, what I think is that it's not the tool itself, but how it is used. Regarding the injustice you mentioned, it has been happening for a long time. Bots and AI are just a way to evade human responsibility. We have all experienced being unfairly charged for something, such as an extra fee for a service, and when you call, no one answers except a bot, or they tell you that the system marks it that way and they can't do anything. It's no longer a person handling the problems; it's an automated system that bills you automatically. That's why I say that all these things have been happening for a long time, and AI is just the progress of technology.

It's true what you mentioned, that AI has the ability to learn on its own. Well, I can't assure that, as I've only been using OpenAI's chat, which sometimes has many flaws, and the cloning of instruments and voices also has flaws. And it's not the AI that corrects those flaws; it's the people behind the project. For example, the other day they updated Gradio, I don't know if you understand it, and all the code to clone voices didn't work because there was an error in the source code. So why didn't the AI correct itself? I searched forums and physically asked people to find a solution, and it turned out that it was just changing one line of code. According to OpenAI, it claims to be capable of reasoning, but I strongly doubt that it can reason. Moreover, we would need to define what reasoning is, and that leads to philosophical thinking. From my point of view, reasoning is nothing more than the comparison of acquired information, like the examples I mentioned earlier. Is it possible to reason a problem without information? I don't think so. But well, we humans are too complex. And I understand your point about the danger that AI can represent.

But if we go back in time to the year 2000, there was a large number of people who committed suicide because they believed that all the computers in the world were going to shut down and the satellites were going to fall. That's why I say that to me, these are the same scenarios, but more advanced. However, we always find ourselves facing something "more powerful," so to speak, and we always get alarmed. If you're alarmed by AI, we can also think about how long the atomic bomb has been in the hands of people who could potentially endanger all of existence, yet here we are. I think that, in the end, these tools or weapons, as they can be both, like a knife, are in the hands of people with great power. We will have to have faith that they will do something good with it. I suppose it will be the eternal struggle of powers, but this time with AI.

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I would also like to add something to what we have been discussing, and it's something I always think about. 'What have we done to ensure that something replaces us?' Let me give you an example. Some time ago, I decided to limit my meat consumption, which led to a deficiency of vitamin B12. So, I was told that I needed to buy B12 supplements. I went to the pharmacy and told the pharmacist, 'Look, I need a vitamin B12 supplement because I hardly consume meat.' Reluctantly, the pharmacist handed me a bottle of pills and wanted to charge me for it. However, I doubted their attitude, so I looked at the brand and said, 'I'll think about it.'

Then I turned to an AI chat and it told me that I needed to take a type of B12 vitamin that is specifically for vegans since it provides double the required dosage. It even told me the name of the product. So, I went to another pharmacy and found it. Now, the point of this, and it's not the first time something like this has happened to me, and I think it happens to all of us, is that we also choose things ourselves, whether it's bots, programs, or AI, that make our lives easier. And sometimes, we don't do enough to protect our own work.

You mentioned AI in hospitals. Do you know how many times I've waited up to 8 hours in hospitals while doctors were enjoying coffee and having a good time, while there was a large number of people waiting? The healthcare system is overwhelmed, and sometimes, some professionals don't even feel like working, and I'm not saying it's everyone. But I don't know if you understand my point. Sometimes, we self-destruct, and then something improved comes along and pushes us aside, and we cry and ask, 'Why?' But how many times do we ask ourselves, 'Did I do something to protect my job?'

What I'm trying to say when I mention that AI is nothing more than technological progress is that it's not entirely new; it's the advancement of a technology. Because I believe that all inventions have a limit. A PC, a bot, and now the continuation of that limit is AI. For example: Vinyl, cassette, CD, flash drive. If you look at it, it's the same thing, but it has evolved, and only the name has changed. It's logical that we will always be alarmed by something new. Now we say that AI will make decisions for us and be present in every profession. But it will have a limit, and (perhaps) a new desire of mankind will emerge, like 'mind-reading,' something that AI won't be capable of. Just imagine the future generations if that were to happen. They would say, just like us, but in a different scenario, 'This mind-reading thing is macabre. At least with AI, it could "reason" and learn on its own, but mind-reading, what will happen to us?'

sorry for rambling so much.
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We can go on and on about this without ever reaching an end!

You persist in believing that your glass cutting is no different than AI? And that all technology that has passed through us the past 40 years or so is not so different from the AI we are facing today?

Well, if you choose to believe this it’s your choice.

Let’s just agree to disagree. And let's hope we can all live happily ever after?

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