After 30 Musical Talent Disappears

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  1. black.afrika.zulu.x

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    The Rolling Stones will NEVER make good music again.
    Iggy Pop will never make a hit.
    Dr. Dre will never make a great album again.

    And so on...

    Do you agree?

     
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  3. harrywhowho

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    stupid. keep it to yourself
     
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  4. harrywhowho

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    Dre's biggest album was way after 30. ...how old it Tycho? zi could go on and on. Maybe the most PoPular stuff is surrounded by young faces, but GREAT music is GREAT ART. Maybe your saying this cause your not a real artist, an artist only gets Better an better an better, depending on dedication and interest. Maybe alot of people stop believing in themselves the older they get (another product of social $$$ media pressure. ...Dude MILLIONS want to be Famous and make it, there are only so many oppertunities, keep pushing, get better than the rest with time, and if you still beleive Finish an album and go for it!
     
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  5. KungPaoFist

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    Pretty sure Timbaland is still killing the game globally no? A lot of artists in the category you're talking about tend to make enough money to stop making music and just do drugs for the rest of their lives, none of which is very inspiring for creativity.
     
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  6. G String

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    It's a truism of theoretical physics that nobody does anything after 30? I think it's generally true about everything.
     
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  7. Herr Durr

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    Aerosmith did this in their 50's.. along with some other pop rock hits.. talent goes a longer way than 30..
    though granted guys have more output when they're young and full of... umm well you know :bleh:

    from 2000 ,and boy was it welcome among all the utter crap that a lot of younger artists were farting out..

     
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    It's not because artist are over 30 that they "lose" their talent, but it seems like that because their audience is older and don't have the "fresh new vibe" feeling anymore when hearing music from an already know artist. Your mind expect some familiar pattern when hearing new stuff from an already know artist, and if his/her new sound doesn't match what your expect, your mind make it feel it's not that great anymore. But it's not about the artist being old, it's about his audience being old.

    Personnal exemple for me is the first Daft Punk album it's their best and they never make it something that great since then (for me). Because I discover them in that period. But for younger generation their greatest can be Discovery or other generation it's Random Access Memory.

    The key for these artist is not just to make great music to stay relevent but also to be able to reach new generation with their new creation.
     
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    Ah well... No hope left for me I guess... :suicide:
     
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  10. eXACT_Beats_

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    I'm going to skip this one since it seems more akin to a well-aimed match in a haystack than a valid question/topic.
    Put the gun down @Knightsurfer, we can wallow in mediocrity together, since I'm Over The Hill (if only by a couple years,) as well.:rofl:
     
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    gize, I didn't start doing shit till mid to late 30's so, ..good luck with your battle to win hearts and minds of retards in fantasy land. Hope your youtube channel works out well for you, don't forget pranks :wink::wink::wink:... Sorry, I think I just suffard my first AS overdose for the night, peace yall
     
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    :cheers:
     
  13. G String

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    Which side of the argument does that sustain? :D

    Generally I'd say youth contributes so much because it's something novel. Not that old folk (like me) can't make decent music, necessarily, but youth has its own qualities. Young folk, men especially perhaps, are driven by sex and that drive often fades (thank god!) :D So much of music is about fucking, or trying to get some.......or identity and trying to find it....or acquisition of stuff.......or love......all stuff that generally diminishes as a desperate need as one ages (one usually gets those things to a degree, wants for less, etc).
     
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  14. Herr Durr

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    refusing to grow up is an excellent strategy.. :bleh:
     
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    No Dream Theater made some good records after they turned 40 and even 50
    And so did Rush, Gary Moore, Zappa Iron Maiden AC/DC and even Europe (The final countdown) who probably made their best album a few years back (around when they all turned 50) and lots of other GREAT musicians.
    Although the ones i counted dont make HITS (Well Gary,s Still Got The Blues became a hugh hit) they make great music instead
    Iggy and Stones where more about looks than music but stones did some really good songs in the 60-70.s
    I never liked Iggy as he could barely play the guitar and his songs where
    "meh!!".
    Who is Dr. Dre? never heard of that dude.
     
  16. Herr Durr

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    Eminem as well, who was he? A famous mouth farter, who is still flatulating, but from both ends now in his old age..

    fohshitzel mah nitzel.. shizz.gif
     
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    What I think but cannot prove...that Foster is holding blackafricazulux prisoner and is using bazx's computer to post these silly questions. #MAKE AUDIOSEX GREAT AGAIN
     
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  18. Palisander

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    Well i will say this. Naivity helps when your young because you have nothing to loose and you have not heard or seen much. So you are pretty fresh and unspoiled coz life was not harsh to you yet. But if you are still foolish in your late 40ies u can still kick it off because life did not get you down. So to me its a perspective thing. And since image gets more and more unimportant and the music gets more and more spread and there is a huge variety out there it just does not matter.
     
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    actually, people make better music after they're 30 because they're more mature, both musically and lyrically.
    ( except for Aerosmith, who get worse years after years :rofl:after "get a grip", their label sent them back to work each time they presented their new material for validation )

    the thing is, the industry is - and even more today - based on "hits", they're not interested in albums anymore because of dematerialization.
    they lost their margins on CDs, so they traded royalties in exchange for equity in the streaming companies.
    but it means no "long term investment" anymore

    the second thing the industry wants, is for young people to buy their sh*t, because their brain has more plasticity, and they're more likely to be influenced by artists they can relate to, age wise.
    also, they're looking for role-models and they care less about the ethic as long as the 2 notes melody hit their brain on drugs.

    Justin bieber is a good example : mommy takes her monkey to the fame circus, and everybody likes moneys, right ?
    especially young girls blossoming, they'll never forget their first touch and the more handsome, the more successful the "artist"

    on the other hand, artists start making music quite young, they want to make it, and they're more likely to compromise to themselves,
    they're physically in good shape, so they can tour more than old-timers who wants to own their life and make something meaningful

    if you're 12, 20 is "adult"
    if you're 20, 30 is "old"
    if you're 30, 40 is the end
    and if you're 40, 50 means "Dude, WTF happened to my life ?!" :rofl::guru:


    if you're a movie-score composer, 50 is young.
    if you're a hip-hop artist, you're likely to be dead at 30, depending on how many face-tattoos you've got

    it's more a question of artists finding their audience, and when it happens, it's usually between 20 and 30
    but there's good artists everywhere, at any age

    dive deeper
     
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  20. Herr Durr

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    who's next.....

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    darn.... just missed... :(
     
  21. Yuri

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    Presumably Foster was born aged 31 then.
     
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