Ableton Live 11 (Crashes, Other Problems, etc)

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  1. nyaa13

    nyaa13 Producer

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    Even small sessions unfortunately. I made sure I deleted everything related to Ableton including registry. Did a clean install 2 times. I never had this problem in the past when I was using Ableton Live 10. It only appeared after I updated to Ableton Live 11.
    Very weird... :snuffy:
    I should also mention that this is happening in 2 different laptops as well...
     
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  2. Helkah

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    Hello, I have an issue after installing ALive!11 versions from the sister site (.05, .11 and .12). I have no elements showing up in the ususal categories in the browser. I have tried to do a complete clean-up and re-install / reset the DB but nothing have worked so far. I also have an issue regarding the sample folders where the folders structure and audio files do not show up (while they appeared correctly in the ALive!9 and ALive!10 versions).
    Could you please help me?
     

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  3. nyaa13

    nyaa13 Producer

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    Did you ever install Ableton using Symlinks before? If yes then you have to make sure to delete them manually. If no then try to use a program like Revo Uninstaller or Iobit Uninstaller and make sure Ableton gets completely deleted. Then also check manually your Program Data folder and make sure Ableton is dead there. Also Check:
    Your Driver letter here. Most probably ---> C:\Users\Your Username here\AppData\Local
    C:\Users\Your Username here\AppData\Roaming
    C:\Users\Your Username here\Documents
    and make sure that Ableton doesn't exist.
    Then run again the installation as Administrator and for good measure also disable your antivirus if any. Make sure your firewall doesn't block anything related to the installer as well. Although that's highly impossible but you never know. It depends on how your Computer is configured. Every Pc is different.
     
  4. Helkah

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    No, I have never used them for ableton. And I have checked all the folders.

    Done that as well.

    I don't have Internet on this computer on purpose.

    Thank you very much for your help. I was wondering if anyone have encountered this issue?
     
  5. nyaa13

    nyaa13 Producer

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    I personally have never encountered this particular issue. Did you manage to solve it, or nothing yet? I don't know what else I could tell you to help you to solve your problem if you have followed all the above steps. The last thing to try is to maybe redownload everything from scratch. In very rare cases the download can get messy.
     
  6. Peter Juan

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    Hi everyone. Got a strange one with a new laptop i've got. I have exactly the same plugins as previous laptop same version of live. On the new laptop if i try to export or freeze tracks it hangs and a force quit is needed. I just cant figure out what is causing this issue and was hoping someone may be able to help. The old laptop has same windows 11 version also. The old laptop stll bounces out the project with no issue and i can freeze tracks without issue.

    Hoping someone can throw some light on the situation


    New laptop specs

    Chassis & Display
    Recoil Series: 15.6" Matte QHD 165Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1440)
    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 11800H (2.3GHz, 4.6GHz Turbo)
    Memory (RAM)
    32GB Corsair 3200MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
    Graphics Card
    NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3080 - 16.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
    1st M.2 SSD Drive
    900GB ENMOTUS FUZEDRIVE M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3470MB/R, 2000MB/W, 24GB SLC for endurance)
    1st M.2 SSD Drive
    2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
    Memory Card Reader
    Integrated SD Memory Card Reader
    Battery
    Recoil Series Integrated 94WH Lithium Ion Battery
    Thermal Paste
    ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
    Sound Card
    2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
    Wireless Network Card
    GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 M.2 GAMING + BLUETOOTH 5.0
    USB/Thunderbolt Options
    1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 3 x USB 3.2 PORTS
    Keyboard Language
    PER-KEY RGB BACKLIT UK MECHANICAL KEYBOARD

    Old laptop spec

    Chassis & Display
    Cosmos Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS 60Hz 45% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor 8750H (2.2GHz, 4.1GHz Turbo)
    Memory (RAM)
    8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 4GB)
    Graphics Card
    NVIDIA® GeForce® MX150 - 2.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12
    1st Storage Drive
    1TB SEAGATE 7mm SERIAL ATA III 2.5" HARD DRIVE WITH 128MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
    1st M.2 SSD Drive
    250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3400MB/R, 1500MB/W)
    Memory Card Reader
    Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
    Battery
    Cosmos VII Series 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    Thermal Paste
    COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
    Sound Card
    2 Channel High Def. Audio + SoundBlaster™ Cinema
    Wireless Network Card
    GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® AC-9260 M.2 (1.73Gbps, 802.11AC) +BT 5.0
    USB/Thunderbolt Options
    1 x USB 3.1 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
    Keyboard Language
    SINGLE COLOUR BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
     
  7. BEAT16

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    Which version of Ableton are you using?
     
  8. Peter Juan

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    was using 11.0.6 have tried 11.0.10, 11.0.12 also and always the same problem. Cleaned out everything in hidden folders on every install as well.
     
  9. BEAT16

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    Hello @ Peter Juan, thanks for the information, here are two tips:

    1.) LatencyMon 7.00
    The LatencyMon software analyzes and identifies which device, which driver or which service is causing audio dropouts or malfunctions.
    Real-time audio suitability checker for Windows 10/8.1/8/7/2016/2012/2008 (x86 and x64)
    Scroll Down to: System Monitoring Tools www.resplendence.com/downloads

    2.) Ableton - Optimizing Windows for Audio
    https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209071469-Optimizing-Windows-for-Audio
     
  10. BEAT16

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    1.) The Ultimate Guide to Optimize your Windows PC for the Stage
    https://gigperformer.com/docs/ultimate-guide-to-optimize-windows-for-stage/index.html

    2.) Deactivate CPU Power Saving Management in the BIOS

    In some cases it is recommended to deactivate the power saving settings of the CPU in the BIOS. In this article we will show you where you can find the options and how you can deactivate them so that the power management options CPU P State Control and CPU C State Control are completely deactivated in the BIOS.

    Deactivate CPU power management
    1. Press the Delete key during the boot process to enter the BIOS
    2. Go to -> Advanced CPU Configuration -> Advanced Power Management Configuration
    3. Change Power Technology to Custom and Energy Efficient Turbo to Disable
    4. Switch to CPU P State Control, deactivate EIST (P-States) and Turbo Mode
    5. Then switch to CPU C State Control, change Package C State Limit to C0 / C1 state and deactivate CPU C3 Report, CPU C6 Report and Enhanced Halt State (C1E).
     
  11. Peter Juan

    Peter Juan Newbie

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    Thank you for these suggestins @BEAT16 i will check these functions tonight when i get home aqnd report back.
     
  12. Peter Juan

    Peter Juan Newbie

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    @BEAT16 I dont have those options in my bios. I ran latency mon and these are the things that i could download. This was running ableton with a few clicks and pops but no hanging
     

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  13. Peter Juan

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    when i export and freezing occures this is what i had
     

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  14. Peter Juan

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    I've no idea what all this means. I got the best preformance with asio4all with buffer rate set to 2048. running on myscarlet 2i2 are where the logs came from buffer rate 1024
     
  15. Stuck In The 80s

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    I'm on the latest R2R Live 11 and on a legit copy of Scaler 2 but the latter seems to frequently crash the DAW whenever I have more than four instances. Obviously it may be a Scaler 2 issue rather than an Ableton one.
     
  16. BEAT16

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    Hallo @Peter Juan, first we want to change the ASIO Driver from Your Audiointerface Scarlett 2i2.
    These Driver is most better then the ASIO4ALL Driver.

    1.) Open Ableton and use the Preferencen --> Audio
    2.) Driver Typ ---> ASIO
    3.) Audio Device ---> Focusrite USB ASIO
    4.) Samplerate ---> In/Out Samplerate ---> 44100
    5.) Default ---> High Quality
    6.) Latency --> Buffer Size -- begin with 512 Samples. if you have cracks or noises use : 256 Samples

    [​IMG]

    Good Luck!
     
  17. Peter Juan

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    Yes i had this when i ran the tests with latency mon. When i disconnected from the audio interface i used asio4all. Neither made the problem go away. Its driving me mad i just want tofinish a tarck but cant bounce it out
     
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    Did somebody notice that FM8 1.4.4 has a very bad performance in Live 11.1? (Im on windows 10 still)

    When i load it it takes more CPU usage then one key pressed in RePro latest R2R version.

    Everything else just works better with 11.1 for me.
     
  20. Alpha0ne

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    @beat

    "6.) Latency --> Buffer Size -- begin with 512 Samples. if you have cracks or noises use 256 Samples"

    If u have cracks or dropouts increasing is better, not decreasing the Buffer Size ;)
     
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