A Thought (don't misunderstand as piracy, LOL)

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  1. Sinus Well

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    Assuming you ignore the fact that making the sample pack available on audioz is most likely a copyright infringement and knowing that you are downloading an illegally provided sample pack, then basically, yes.
     
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  2. jazzzz

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    I would rather just sell the NFT of a song created by AI trained on copyright protected sources.
     
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  3. fnord23

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    /Edit sorry wrong thread
     
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  4. Radio

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    You are in the wrong thread!
     
  5. Obineg

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    they will sue themselves and the general public gets the bill.

    that´s what they do in many other fields with success already, at least in countries with legal aid for both, private persons and corporations, this is a large business area.
     
  6. Obineg

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    it is even worse.

    such a company could just buy all titles from flea markets or itunes and then they use a legit copy - to do something with it which is currently simply not regulated, so it naturally ends up before courts.
     
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  7. BlackHawk

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    Regarding "trained" AI ...

    I wonder what about all the musicians ... all trained on Bach, Beatles, Stockhausen, Swift ... all their work in the coming hundreds of years will be subject to copyright infringement suits. Let alone all the autodidacts that have learned from listening to records, radio and live shows. Every musician will be sued by every other musician that was before him.

    And for the writers ... every writer has learned from all the writers before him, yep, has learned from everybody who has used language in his presence. Has learned from TV, newspaper, every conversation ever happened.

    And the painters ...

    And the architects ...

    And the ...

    See, where all that is going? It's just simply stupid. Recommended: let AI do the heavy lifting, lie about using it, done. You lie about where you get your ideas from, why stop lying now and pretend t4o be a honest broker of the pure arts?

    Laughable. Every artists is a con artist. An illusionist. A cheat. A pretender. A magician. So f it and lie.
     
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  8. §Ìfcada98

    §Ìfcada98 Noisemaker

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    I generally agree with your opinion.
    If you were inspired by a song and composed a tune, would you pay a fee to the creator of the song that inspired it?
    AI is also just analyzing and learning and spitting out the results.

    We, too, present the results of something as our own to others when we create something, when we express an opinion, when we come up with an idea, and when we make music. But we also spice up the results with our own unique ideas and interpretations. I believe that AI is no different.
    Also, AI is still an area that needs more research and improvement, but AI today, in the case of musicians, is still at the beginner level where they are just starting to learn music theory, and there are many areas where it is distinct from music created by a flesh-and-blood human being. It may still be a long way from surpassing humans.
     
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  9. Emma Evi

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    Theses days company even tolerate selling warez or offering a warez subscription service.
     
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  10. Garamondo Furbish

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    my neighbor frequently steals my newspaper out of my driveway and tries to sell it back to me.
    I only buy when there's a big story......
     
  11. aleksalt

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    Big fish doesn't like when a small one bites it by the tail:

    License Agreement (excerpt)

    "...The samples shall not be used, directly or indirectly, for the training, development, or enhancement of artificial intelligence systems or algorithms, including but not limited to machine learning models, neural networks, or any other artificial intelligence technology, whether for commercial or non-commercial purposes, without the explicit written consent of the Big Fish Audio. Any unauthorized use of the licensed samples for artificial intelligence training purposes shall constitute a material breach of this agreement and may result in termination of the license, as well as any other legal remedies available to Big Fish Audio"

    https://www.bigfishaudio.com/detail.html?1&36&1::::::::::::Symphonic Manoeuvres 2:1586
     
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  12. Somnambulist

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    I found the key word in your thread title post to be 'TODAY.' I took this as being in our current socio-economic, socio-political environment including all associated with it in making money.

    IN SHORT: Count how many companies have got away with things nobody thought anyone should or could? Anything deemed as suspect or potentially illegal has be shown that people will do it for as long as they can get away with it. What you put forward is minor next to some corporations who should have been taken to task decades ago.
     
  13. Lois Lane

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    If someone trains an AI how to steal digital money from a bank ledger, let's say one billion dollars, which the bank actually doesn't have and routes it around the world a million times so that it is untraceable, can the programmer claim fair usage of those credits and redistribute $100,000 into the accounts of poor people the programmer feels worthy and in need? The programmer isn't using the money, but rather giving it away for free.

    I wonder?
     
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  14. Xupito

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    This topic is getting hotter by the month
     
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  15. shinyzen

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    check this out. Landr is trying to trick users of their distribution services into giving up their rights for use on training AI for whatever Landr wants to do with it, including creating derivatives and new works, WITHOUT credit or royalty's to the artist. Meanwhile, Landr prohibits the use of their samples for AI training. This video is a must watch. Anybody have a way to train based on Landr's samples? Start a free sample service called Blander.

     
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  16. Garamondo Furbish

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    Yer an intelligent man, there's sumthin thass been bothering me for quite a spell. Where does electronic currency go when they turn off the power? is there a battery somewhere that holds all that electric currency? could you swap it for a regular 9volt battery? would anyone notice.

    please answer soon... I'm working on a screen play about an electronic currency heist gone wrong and I need technical advice (also a 9 volt battery if you have a spare..) - asking for a friend..


    Working title "9Volt Man - In Charge of the Currency" - title may change depending on copyright and how much money the producer can raise..
     
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  17. Garamondo Furbish

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    cheeky monkeys...
     
  18. Garamondo Furbish

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    Need a technical guru.

    working on a crypto currency thats stored in your filings or or other dental work, probably bluetooth, but might have a qr code tattoed on the roof of your mouth. still working on details.

    I'm a big picture guy - need
    1. detail oriented guy who has loose morals and is smaller than me in case I need to physically restrain them in a basement somewhere till the special k wears off.
    2. Gofund me page to get seed money, cover latte's, croisants, smokes, special k and other research costs.

    3. Smooth Talker - would prefer someone with at least one Ted Talk under their belt, but would settle for someone who can hold their own in the subway and can argue with an insurance salesman as long as they have a nice car.

    This is a ground floor opportunity. I will be offering shares at a discounted price to people who can help this dream come true, will let me sleep on their couch, or can let me use their internet at least one day a week.

    I'm gonna leave you with this, so you know this is real, and its gonna be huuuuuuuuuuuge!!!!..


    BITE COIN - the currency of the future - only a smile away.

    (working to setup a network of Dentist to partner with)

    p.s. juss in case, also a couple good attorneys - criminal and financial if theres any difference... might be handy to have on retainer after we get the gofundme rolling.. also offshore passports and funny wigs just cover all bases.

    Business is tuff work, I think Ima take a nap. lemme know bout gofunme and stuff.
     
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    The Shadow knows.

     
  20. Radio

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    When will you finally write a novel or a screenplay for a film? You are clearly talented.

    By the way, the only real currency in our world is gold, alcohol, cigarettes and plant seeds. In the event of a crisis, you can get a sack of potatoes from the farmer for a bottle of whiskey. Cigarettes are recommended for trading with your neighbors. You need plant seeds to grow fruit and vegetables.

    Oh yes, take a basic course in martial arts, if the power goes out and the cell phone addicts can no longer use their godlike device, they will completely freak out or collapse.
     
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