A revolution is around the corner? [yet another AI thread]

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  1. anonymouse

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    I don't think anyone actually cares about the 20 year old human that felt the need to write songs about drugs and heartbreak, because these experiences were new to him and to all the other teenagers listening to the crap.

    Corporations will be fast to slap a face, name and marketing campaign on the first AI that writes some music teenagers can identify with and that will be that.
     
  2. GeekedGlitch

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    It means that real music is becoming more and more elite. For people who actually tend to think over music, not just relax and being stoned.

    You're right, nobody should care about some stupid teenage problems, but we as humans tend to use our own experience to create art, and that's what makes art beautiful. It's a misconception that experience is useless, we just don't think about it when someone who experiences hard feelings sublimates it into art. We care only about art.

    So, AI revolution in the music will give masses what they want, and music will become esoteric again, like it was in the past.

    Artists will learn that if they can't compete with AI in creating a marketing product, they should do art for their heart, and only for it.

    P.S. Even more - all these "anti-AI" protests are being organized by shitty (or not) craftsmen, who worry only for their money, and nothing else. Jesus, moneymaking in music made music crappy! I'M GLAD that AI will defeat or re-organize pop-music industry. Hail to Innovation!
     
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  3. Crinklebumps

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    If AI is used exclusively by the industry the big music corporations will lobby governments to ban human creativity because it will encroach on their business. They will attempt to close all outlets for real artists. Art materials, musical instruments etc., will only be available on the black market and rebellious children found with guitars will be imprisoned for their own good. Of course, I'm joking. Or am I..?
     
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    You fool, "real creativity" is just marketing. Try to not promote your art, not showing it to anyone. Will it still be art, or you'll screw it for something more economy-efficient?
     
  5. triggerflipper

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    But AI in movie VFX isn't a sentient thing that creates scenes out of thin air, it's just a tech that people use to create better VFX :)
    The comparison with Morricone would work if AI made its own spaghetti western lol
     
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    Oh, then I'm already ahead of the curve.
    I'm doing art so only for my heart that it's gonna burst soon (nothing to do with the stress of being broke).
     
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    What about the mind reading AI ? Imagine how easy and fast it would be to create entire albums, with video clips for each track even. You could also become the next Nolan by just thinking, laid down on your sofa, big fat spliff between moisty lips.
    That's all both magnificent & horrendous. I can't see any world where the bad side doesn't overweight the good side aftermaths.

     
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    Will probably take a while before the episodes and movies become actually watchable and interesting/funny/good etc.
     
  9. mr.personality

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    if you think music hasn't already become a totally cheapened disposable commodity because everyone on the planet and their grandmothers are all making music with the same software, this 'ai', which is basically a buzzword for sophisticated search engines stealing from what others created to make it's shit, then you ain't seen nothing yet.
     
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    People seem to think that AI will make music generic and uninteresting but what if it's incredible and way better than humans can produce? Kids might start following new AI music algorithms like older generations followed bands. AI companies might have to create avatars for AI bands.
     
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  11. triggerflipper

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    Remember that A&R dude from Decca who rejected the Beatles because "guitar groups are on their way out" ?

    Pepperidge Farm remembers.

    And our AI overlords will DEFINITELY remember.
     
  12. mr.personality

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    but afaik, it searches the internet for what humans have already produced and cobbles it together into some other form, mostly bad so far. perhaps it should be regarded as more like sampling and what sampling did towards creating new music genres.

    and how does that work, 'better than humans can produce' mean. any music generated by ai that a biological human with a brain could even relate to would in fact be able to be produced by a human. if ai produced music that's supposedly 'better' than a human, you'd probably have to be an ai to understand and appreciate it.

    i suppose until the day comes when humans have self evolved into more computer than flesh, then those beings will fully appreciate 'art' made by their own own 'kind'.
     
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  13. triggerflipper

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    Have you watched the video that started this thread?

    One dude manages to sound like a chorus of several professional singers with each their own unique timbre, cleaner than any Melodyne or Autotune or Vocoder using production. And that's barely scratching the surface of what happens in the video, let alone what the tech will allow to achieve.
     
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    You're right, better is subjective but objectively I could have said more popular, which is the ultimate gauge within the music industry. We're all free to make our own music but if AI music dominates the market we may find we're making music for ourselves. Even our friends won't be interested if they compare our music to AI and think it's nowhere near as good. People probably won't want to listen to what they perceive as inferior music. I know that music is also about communication but I'm assuming there won't be any area of music production that can't be copied/maybe improved on by AI. For the first time in history we're going to have competition from non-human intelligence. I guess there will always be the die-hards (the generations before AI) who prefer human music but we will eventually fade away and kids won't be as discerning as us.
     
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    i think the mainstream people don't give a fuck if it's a.i generated or made by humans
     
  17. mr.personality

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    I'm of the opinion that what was once biological humans and their society will be unrecognizable by anyone living today in (pulling numbers from my ass) several hundred to a thousand years from now. So whatever it is in terms of societal structure and whatever is considered artistic endeavors then, it will be their norm.

    Right now AI seems to be, as I say before, more or less a more sophisticated search engine that grabs content that people produced and regurgitates it in another form. I see it as just another bit of software 'help' like everything everyone already uses now that gives music a certain sameness to even further pollute the planet with and a further cheapening of. We all know what horrors a seemingly innocent thing like autotune did to music. Can't wait for what AI will rain down upon the world, lol.
     
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