Greg Palast - on 2016 Election.




Palast is no kook. The film is about the Koch Brothers and the (stealing of the) election - for Trump. Makes a lot of sense. The Koch's are King. You better worry......

http://www.gregpalast.com/

 

nobody has ever cared about the Koch brothers and still don't. Plus it's hard to steal an election from somebody that, by law, should not have even been able to run.

Having Trump is better than having someone who lied under oath & did absolutely nothing to protect our 4 men who were under direct attack & shrugged it off... for over 8 HOURS. They watched and did nothing, because Amb. Stevens FOUND OUT that we were DIRECTLY ARMING the terrorists. That's why Benghazi happened. Those 4 men were never going to make it back home. Stevens should have kept his mouth shut, until they all made it back to US soil.

Too many people wanting free birth control & healthcare and not WORKING for what they have. There is a reason why US is $20 TRILLION in debt, because those who have opposed Trump have an agenda to bring down America from the inside out, without having another country declare physical war on us. Nothing is free, the price of other things go up to make up for free healthcare, etc. I'm glad the Obama puppet's bills are now being reversed by Trump. Clinton would have kept everything in place & made it worse. The Clintons, Bush's & Obama all have the same puppet masters... the Council of Wise Men.

 

"The fascists of the future will be called anti fascists." Churchill.

As if the guy was clairvoyant.

 

where does this quote come from ? Can you give me the source ?

 

No he can't. It doesn't exist.

But that never stops them.

I'm on Von Steyr's ignore list, so he won't see my post. But I would ask him if he has ever read Winston Churchill's books? I **bet** he hasn't ever read one. But some crappy invented quote, without any context whatsoever, and that's just dandy.

I have read Churchill.

Clearly that's not true.

You didn't watch the film, did you?

 

Wow, you read a whole book?!? All by yourself??? You earned a gold star for today buddy

No wonder you're on his ignore list. And now you're going to join mine.

 

You missed the point.

People spout BS - and put it in the mouths of great people - without knowing anything about their subject. It isn't that difficult to read Churchill......but folks don't even bother. They're happy with invented quotes......even as they accuse others of being "sheep" and such like.



Books.

 

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Gee, what a surprise.........I found that fake Churchill quote at Stormfront --- ie the biggest Nazi website in the world. Based in Florida. Run by Don Black. Another of Von Steyr's "friends" is big at Stromfront too......Eustace Mullins.


Here's a source for that Churchill lie - Stormfront:
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1192109/

 

Why is it that when the right does it is wrong and when the left does it, it is ok? Both sides are guilty of EXACTLY the same tactics in politics and have been for ages. We need to do away with a dual party system to be fair, and that means eliminating the media, corporations and the ruling parties from the process. Without that it will never be a truly equal and fair system

 

Wow, you are so well informed. Of course we are in such debt because of free birth control and healthcare. Of course it has nothing to do with the 100s of millions being purged daily in the useless wars. Also welfare for the citizens of the US is absolutely NOTHING compared to the amount spent on corporate welfare in the US. You SHOULD help out people in need, you SHOULDN'T help businesses.

Puppet masters.... Yeah all the US did is out the middleman and go straight to the wealthy investor. Its incredibly easy to see how stupid that is.

 

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why im not surprised...

at times i feel, "whatever.."but then seeing the HUGE amount of defecation this von individual systematically spreads around in this forum, there is a point where simple nonsense passes the line of psychotic disorder, and this individual really has surpassed that line like for a whole century already..

 

These are the pre Mandela effect books, check out the new reissued ones, they are also a tad thicker.

 

Come off it?

Socialism (Communism under Marxism) is the **abolition of class** - the very definition of your "truly equal and fair system".

Your way to achieve "equality" is to abolish the whole movement towards it - "the left", socialism. How does that makes sense? You don't have to be a socialist, nobody does. But it doesn't make sense to wish for equality whilst seeking to do away with everything that seeks that exact same equality you said you wanted -the left/socialism.

 

Ah, thanks for that. I'd forgotten the name of that kookiness. LOL. That's some real wacko shit.

 

The film is scary - and convincing. But few seem to care much about real shit. Too much total BS to be getting on with already?

I love the Eskimo bloke in it - a former Caltech (?) professor. What a guy. He's right: the world is going to hell, and what are *you* doing about it? You're gonna just let it happen? His fury is appropriate and inspiring. I still wouldn't eat that whale blubber stewed in blood though. Yeuch.

 

I might have missed something but I disagree with, "Why is it the right does it it's wrong and the left it's okay..."

How many countries have the right-wing US government (Never been what I would call left.) interfered with or gone to War with in the name of capitalism or against a countries political democracy ?

The left wing died with Neoliberalism. I agree with the premise of your quote but ultimately modern democracy (And I mean over 20 years) is trashing itself with it's partisan stalwarts.

I'd wager that it won't be long until Trump goes after the DMCA for being so ineffective ? ect.

Or starts giving certain internet traffic priority over others ? When Sky, Fox and the multinational media corporations get preferential to access to customers... Lose your rights to internet freedom and lose the little protection that you have to privacy. (I'm guessing the wealthy can buy more protection).

I guess it's Trump so anything that he says is good and should never be challenged. OR you're of the other opinion. It's Trump everything he say's is bad and should be challenged.

Zero middle ground.

 

and let scientist run the world,I trust them way more than anyone in politics,or the media etc etc

 

You think you hated the way things were before, give it about a year. Hell, give it about six months. Even the most hardcore trailer-dwelling racist hillbilly in Meth-Belt, Ohio is going to have a seriously bad case of buyer's remorse.

As for "right" and "left", therein lies the whole problem. Up until fairly recently, both parties were able to meet somewhere in the middle on most issues. That's no longer the case. It's us versus them, both sides being completely sure that "they" are some kind of monsters. There's no more "United" anything, anywhere. That's how things got to this point. I think it was inevitable that we would get to this point as a species, where we had a choice to move forward into the future or stay stuck in this one moment because we were too scared of the changes. We've been here before and had our asses collectively saved by the Black Plague, which wiped out those people who were terrified of change and allowed those who survived to move forward into the Renaissance. I don't think we're going to get that lucky again.

 

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Meh they say it's going to be "Lethal and Quick".

Hope it's not some genetically discriminating man-made mutation of small pox or the like.

 

This is to address Political Discussions, Conspiracy Theories,
and other Controversial subjects on this forum.​

Sorry I baited you with my post;

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I Understand that in our world, our social sphere, politics, and government have a very large influence on our daily lives and often how, when, and where we are able to access the Internet.

I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing with anyone here.​

I am just saying the people, the total vote of the people, popular vote, no screwy system from the past should determine the result of any election in a democracy. No matter who you choose the amount of hate directed from one person to another person of another belief, of another race, of another religion in the same country is ridiculous, and this is the reason these kinds of threads are useless in a forum like this.

whats the point?

Did you come to audio sex to argue with your friends here about what's wrong with them over their belief in politics or world views, despite the fact that you guys might not even live in the same country?

There are currently 2 threads running right now of the same vein. most of you are in all of them. why? How else can we all collaborate to make this forum more alive and creative for all of us musically, creatively? why do we have to waste our time on all this other BullShit?

If we took all of this negative, and corrosive energy and turned it into a more positive collaborative effort this Forum would be Much better don't you agree?

Edit: I have Locked Both Threads. One started fine but is now headed in the same direction. They always do, Politics just does not mix on a forum where you do not know who is on the other end of that avatar. and this nonsense is unavoidable. It's always the same, it's the same guys, a few newbies, what the hell, why can't we all just get along?

I have invited @SAiNT to comment here for everyone to read as well.

 

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