a problem with amp simulators

Discussion in 'Guitars' started by briiian, Dec 12, 2019.

  1. briiian

    briiian Newbie

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    Hey! so I have an annoying problem regarding bias fx 2 and guitar rig. the problem is when I'm using them, the sound I get is sustained, what I mean is every note I play, my guitar seems to pickup other sounds at the same time and it's ugly! even when I'm not even playing, my guitar just picks up random sounds just from touching the strings and they're all over the place. this doesn't happen when I'm on clean tone. any suggestions?
     
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  3. Mister Grimm

    Mister Grimm Ultrasonic

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    This happens with distorted guitars if you don't mute the ringing strings properly, even with a real amp, hi-gain tones tend to be really sensitive to string movement. By improving your technic you will see dramatic improvement to your tone as well !
     
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  4. Baxter

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    Distortion is compression in a way. :rofl:That's what they do (gain and clip).
    Welcome to the wonderful world of distortion units/pedals/amps. Overdrives, saturators, fuzz, etc.
     
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  5. briiian

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    ah I see. I mean I'm a beginner after all. but I gotta say, after I played around with guitar rig's noise gate, I managed to reduce the issue significantly
     
  6. briiian

    briiian Newbie

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    haha true. although I managed to reduce the noise by playing around with guitar rig's noise gate function
     
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    Basically what @Mister Grimm told is your answer.
    When you play with heavy distorted settings quiet things can become very loud: noise and the famous shredder-like palm mutes, to put two completely different examples.

    High gain is the key concept and pretty self-explanatory, as opposed to clean tones (low-gain).
     
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    Like you said yourself, a noise gate is almost a must have if you play with high gain amps. Good humbuckers or noise cancelling single coils is also to prefer over noisy singlecoils!
     
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    Also - if you notice any weird hum or interference when tracking (or even just playing) around your computer, turn so your pickup isn't directly facing your monitor. That will usually resolve it.
     
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  10. bluerover

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    Check the height of your pickups to the strings. Your pickups MAY be too close to the strings, and this may help 5-10% of your problem. (maybe ;-)

    (*This is also a problem when you begin to intonate your guitar. Before you intonate, lower your pickups all the way down so the magnets don't pull down on your strings.)
     
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  11. Mister Grimm

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    FYI noise gate sets a "gate" that can be surpassed by "X" DB or more. If you play something in less DB than what you set the threshold , your noise gate will not let your signal to pass.

    String muting is something that will come with time and will feel more naturay to you but its something necessary for a good recording (great productions and mixing comes from great recordings)

    If you play, lets say, a powerchord and dont mute properly, other strings will ring also and will bleed into your signal. Noise gate mostly is used to clear your signal from hum and electricity noise (noise gate has many uses, a good example is djent, when threshold is set to a level that chops the signal "artifiacially" in order to achive the desired djenty sound)
    So even with a noise gate you will not hear anything before you play your chord or after it, but you will hear THE chord. If its messy and bleedy you still need good muting skills .

    TIP: Some guys taped the strings that they dont use in recordings, yeap, TAPPED THEM ! I m not a big fan of it but if someone like you is a begginer and would love to record and expirement, then, why not ?

    I hope this helps ! Welcome to the bottomless pit of sound !!!
     
  12. briiian

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    thanks guys! will consider all the suggestions, I appreciate it. my pickups are HSS and I usually keep it on humbucker since I get the most bright sound. I've tried single coils as well, not much of a difference in terms of the issue . this is my guitar btw

    @Mister Grimm it's gonna take a while before I'm confident to record haha. I've got a lot to learn and not having the proper technique can always cause unexpected problems. soon I'm gonna get a teacher so hopefully I'll get good haha, cheers!

    @bluerover I checked that and I don't think they are too close to the pickups tbh. also I got my guitar just recently, the action and all that was checked.

    @ThrashHead ah that's interesting, didn't know that could effect.. will try that
     
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    Good lookin' guitar! Looks similar to one of Adrian Smith's guitars that he played live with in late 80s on the Maiden England concerts.
     
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    Yeah, but if there is noise/interference from the start it will still be there once you start playing. A (noise) gate is just an expander.
    Better shield the pickup guard, eliminate EMI (or move around til you find a good spot), fix grounding, etc (fix at the source) than to slap a noise gate on it.
    What I mean is, the problem could be the guitar - not the amp/pedal sim plugin. Just a tip to check out.
     
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