a Message to Newbies

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  1. tonyg0499

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    Recently have noticed an increase of threads by "newbies" posting problems that have satisfactorily been solved by already existing threads. Before opening a thread, search our Forum in order to avoid "duplicate threads". The majority of problems dealing with installation and malfunctioning of popular software can be found with a solution if you spend time searching for it. While we are here to help you, it is unnecessary and burdensome for us to have to rewrite what we have already posted and explained on another thread. For example, in last 2 weeks I have explained more than 10 times what the latest updates for Omnisphere, Trilian and Keyscapes are and yet "newbies" continue to ask what they are and even post "outdated" updates that confuse other members more. Finally, some of you "newbies" have complained to me that sometimes longtime members do not want to help you but before you bitch about that consider doing what I just suggested. Bottom line here is that YOU need to make some effort and not expect everything to be served on a plate. Follow the rules before opening a new thread. Make it easier for us to help you and on yourself to solve your problem. PEACE!
     
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  3. Ponstory Games

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    Also, welcome newbies! I was once where you guys are, but these guys have got answers for just about everything. The audiosex forum is a treasure trove of software and musical education.
     
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  4. foster911

    foster911 Audiosexual

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    A better message:
    Back off from the music world and let professionals do their jobs in tranquillity.
     
  5. blacknblue

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    then you 100% must be the first to do it.
     
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    90% of the time Google and youtube is your friend.

    Laziness is not even attempting to look first.
     
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    Preza Noisemaker

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    For God's sake, people. You are making tonyg0499 rewrite everything over and over again. Shame on you!

    I would have directed them to the original thread, but you are the Boss.
     
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    We should have a FAQ with the most common questions (the best compressor, how to load Kontakt libraries, a DAW choice guide, etc.).
     
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    What is a VST and what is a DAW?
     
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    Do you have this for Mac?
     
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    Once the wrong info is posted and all we can do is mark it as "disagree".Nevertheless the right thing to do is go one step further and give you guys the correct answer.
     
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    There are certainly different ways to get a message across. Imo your post is arguably worse than the problem you are trying to solve. Elitism from long time members looking down on new members for whatever reason is at least a problem here on par with what you call bitching newbies. The problem was more pronounced during the Catalyst regime, but your bad tone against new members is still frequent among some long time members which trickles down and influence the whole community. I am pretty sure you mean the community well with your post, and maybe also mean the "bitchin" new members well? Your tone, however, against what you call bitching newbies in your post, is rather unnecessary no matter how nice and noble your goal with your post was.

    Along with your way of thinking, instead of bitching about having to explain something 10 times here in the forums, as you proclaim you did, maybe you should spare the community your repetitive explaining and rather link to appropriate post and/or rules in order to in a non confrontative way educate our new members. Certainly it is possible to get your points across without you putting new members down with demeaning language.

    *Waiting for the usual attack dogs and their ad hominem attacks*
     
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    very similar when u play mmo
    and a miracle happen, genuine help...like passing time is the second most precious thing in life.
    cheers from spain...a new new newbie and niew (maybe a song about it? very musical word ;o)
     
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    Hola @Oimsio

    You spoke wisely and with good humour. For that, I was honoured to be the first one to give you a "like". :wink:
     
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    Teaching changes the world. Preaching maintains the status quo.
    Red pill, or blue pill? Your choice.
     
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    "Newbies"
    Love the quotation-marks.
     
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    @farao
    This is not about elitism as you alleged. Nobody is looking down at new members. I guarantee you that I have helped more "newbies" than you have so don't even go there with such an accusation. On one hand you accused me of using demeaning language against "newbies" and on the other you use the same language against me. Maybe you should spare the community of your hypocrisy and get your point across without using language which you consider demeaning.
     
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    Mac pleezzz!!! *joke intended* :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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    As a new member who has been helped too many times by @tonyg0499 I feel compelled to jump in his defense. A careful reading of the post negates what you have acused him of. There is no demeaning language as you claim. In fact, he correctly noted that you used the same language against him. All he is trying to do is guide us new members and telling us not to complain about not obtaining help if we have not done our homework first. Nothing wrong with it. BTW, where were you during all those Omnisphere posts he is referring to? You didnt help me. He did.
     
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    Farao will always read between the lines and bends it to find something that offends him/her no matter what. Its just his/her nature. A perpetual victim. He/she provokes on purpose just to get a rise out of anybody. The most eloquent of trolls. He/she cant help it. Just ignore it and move on. We all have, even the mods lol
     
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    Thanks for the advice my friend. I will follow it 100%.
     
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