I'm not understanding why this is such a big deal. A couple of months ago some one posted a topic about a R2R website. Many had questions about it and finally SAiNT asked me to explain if it was legit or not, Quick answer NO! R2R does not have a site nor do they need one. Also they make no money at all, It's all about the Japanese pride at being the best at what they do , sure sometimes they fail but always come back with a fix. Now for those that think that the Sister site should also be banned , clearly have no fucking clue on how things work. There are only a handful of people that are allowed to "Share" the R2R stuff...... Decibelle ,Horsemen and Funtime and they take every cent they make and put it right back into the system by supplying stuff.So complaining about the sister site is just stupid Maybe some of you guys reading this should try supplying instead of bitching. If complaining is your thing then I suggest you talk to your mom,sister, girlfriend 'cause if I see one more stupid complaint about how the current system works, I will pull the plug and break it all down. My partner and I do not spend $600 plus a month to support cry babies and if you do not know what that means, ask around.

 

mykal's a fucking boss, all the respekts to him

 

Every few months we get this drama involving people on this forum and the sister site and teams.

Why cant we have a rule?

Drama and Bitching
Involving operations of teams and operations of the sister site will not be tolerated.

If the whiners are so unhappy and miserable why are they here? Just to cause problems? We dont need that.

Give them a chance to shut their pie holes or be gone.


The vast majority of us are grateful for what passes through. All this BS just pisses off the teams, mods and respectful people.

Please don't let a few spoil it.

 

In other words, you did not purchase FL Studio 12.5 because you wanted to do right by IL. You only purchased it because you could not find a working keygen . Oh I see, you try before you buy.
R2R has gained the right to complain about whatever they want to within the scene and nobody here nor on AZ should be criticizing them for doing so.

 

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Agree with you 100%. And that is exactly the reason why I started this thread. It is a shame to find some members that simply refuse to show gratitude.

 

Isn't it the ultimate hypocrisy for R2R to be complaining about guys ripping off their 'work'? Isn't this about thieves stealing from thieves? wtf?

 

Let's keep it real, bro: R2R are thieves from whom other thieves are stealing. Yes, R2R 'works' hard to crack all the software that we steal, while the developers get zero dollars from it. Now, somebody 'works' hard to steal R2R 'work' and nobody can call the emperor naked?

 

There are no angels here, we will burn in ...that place... at the end

 

Just download and install. Shhh...shhh....Don't talk...........Just download and install. I miss the old days.

 

can you please show the agreement or contract , i would like to see this .

 

R2R has every right to complain people stealing their cracks. Because people stealing their cracks are making money from those cracks. R2R aren't.

R2R are just helping people like me to have a chance who has ZERO means of buying these commercial products and gain a chance at succeeding at the musical career. If there was no R2R I wouldn't be able to use cracked versions of software and start learning to make music. When I make ANY extra money I'm a potential customer for the companies which I use their product now. Without R2R, I wouldn't be. It's simple as that.

Now, this approach may hurt companies because SOME PEOPLE who use their MAIN DAW for years and has money to buy it still won't. But I'm guessing ImageLine and most other companies would prefer people like me being able to use their stuff and eventually buy them regardless of these free riders and none-appreciative folk.

 

hello,sorry if u find somenthing inccorrect i' speak only a bit of english But i want to share my thoughts this time.
i think "peace-out",now "r2r" are the new era, after the "AiR,ZonE,Talio,Dynamics" golden age.
There was many in the past and actually i can say that R2R are the king of that dynasty...so why he is getting hungry at some shit-insects upon a page and make this public without shutdown or deface that site?(for example),or an anonymous complaint without ruin his karma? i find that the new host procedure releases are totally unnecessary and even don't work on my pc,unnecessary cause i only laughed at that site when i saw it,never think a single sec to download something from that or that was created by the crew ,and i think most of all too (and is not the only site that triyng to make money from warez) so why r2r impose this solution ?sorry but i didn't like something imposed like this especially for that shitty site's fault,the only plausible reason imo is about newbies, otherwise is like r2r are worried about some suckers and i can't believe this! a textual warning maybe was just enough and too much for this little persons.cheers

 

yeah but R2R is like Robin Hood so it's ok

 

What you say there is really wrong. Especially that stuff about "second time stealing" has nothing to do with reality or law. R2R did never steal anything. Ask a Judge or a Lawyer. Only thing they do (which is punishable) is called cicumventing (or reverse engineering) the copy protection of some software. In most cases they need the original (bought) (not stolen) copy of the app to start looking for a way to disable or bypass the DRM mechanism. They are not even responsible for the distribution of the (then to be called) cracked software. And the people who download their releases and use them instead of paying money are called pirates, not thieves. And if someone in the chain is closest to a thief, I'd say it's them; downloaders / end users ;)

 

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Yeah, sure....lol

Try 'circumventing' your neighbor's door to take possession of his wallet, which you immediately make available to your friends. Then explain to the police that you're not a thief and all you're doing is helping someone who could never buy a 60" TV set get one, because when this friend of yours starts working he will pay the victim.

Let's call a spade a spade: what R2R is doing is called "theft" (which is what thieves do). It's done against the rightful owner's wishes. It's wrong and it causes harm to the victim.

Every time you take something that does not belong to you you're stealing and therefore you are a thief. No way to deny this obvious truth.

 

What is that kind of rhetoric?
Digital age passed you?

 

Don't forget Mother Teresa.

 

Mac iTunes version please?

Sorry, I couldn't help myself...

 

It all boils down to buy it if you can afford it. Yes it's wrong to use cracks, but if you have no money, you're not gonna buy it anyway. No lost sales.
I won't judge someone who hasn't been able to go legit like I have because they're poor or live in a country where a months pay is what I spend on 'luxuries' in a week. They should not feel guilt for a right to expression through lack of funds or circumstance. But as I've said before, if you're chucking down burgers and six packs every day, you know you should do the right thing.

R2R are correct about monetising their efforts, just like they are when they say if you use, it buy it.