A good excercises for left and right hand (piano)

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  1. nikon

    nikon Platinum Record

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    Is there a pianist's here ?

    I would like to recomend me a good excercises for "left" and right hand (synchronisation, most on left ).
    It's a lot of work and practicing, but where I can find something like excercises ? I know there it is. I search on net but there is a tons of sheets and I don't know what's the right exercise.
    I play almost a two year, when I have free time, I steal daughter's piano at nigth :) (she is at 1st grade of prime musical school) and I have difficulties with my left hand :)
     
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  3. thisis theend

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    One simple advice that I got from a keyboard wizard many moons ago was to use the left hand as often as possible in ordinary situations, like writing, turning a key, eating soup, putting butter on a sandwich, brushing teeth, combing hair etc etc…
    This helped me improve flexibility, independence and coordination for my leftie.

    Have a strange feeling that I'm setting myself up for some dirty jokes here :unsure:
     
  4. Levitate

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    A good place to start is practice playing the root and the 5th with your left hand.Like if you're playing say C minor chord or scale with the right hand,play the root and fifth(the 1 and 5)with the left hand in the next lower octave.So like say you're playing a c minor. That'd C,Eb,G(1st inversion) with the right hand,play C & G with the left hand in a lower octave,you can play them all at the same time or you can play them as an arpreggio.The root and the 5th of the left hand can change to whatever notes of the scale too while the same chord or scale is being played in the right as well.Like the right is playing a melody or chord in c minor,the left can go from playing C&G to Bb&F,Ab&Eb,G&D,etc,you can change the melody or chord of the right hand slightly too when you switch keys with the left hand makes it flow nicer.Of course you could play the whole chord with the left too,instead of just the root & 5th,but theres alot more to explain there as some chords would be major and some minor depending on the piece and the 3rd tone is what determines major or minor.The #'s system is pretty awesome for figuring out complex chords,maj&min 7th's,9ths,etc.You basically take a major or minor scale and number the notes of the scale 1-8(8 is just the same note as 1 in the next octave),and 1,3,&5 are your chord(well the 1st inversion of that triad,that's a whole other discussion),then if you need the 7th,9th,11th,etc you just add it to the 1,3,&5.You can also split those up like take a minor 9 chord,1,3,5,7,9 and play 3,7,&9 with the right hand and 1 and 5 with the left in a lower octave.This may sound confusing,I wish I had a video to use as reference to explain it easier.Learning the major and minor triads & scales for each key is a good starting point.I hope this helps and is understandable,it's a lot easier to show than to try to explain
     
  5. Gramofon

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    Look up and try some exercises by Hanon.

    Here's one: http://www.hanon-online.com/app/download/2936455111/Exercise+N%C2%B01+in+C.pdf?t=1296937599
     
  6. maka1986

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    If you're playing for two years you should be familiar with the concept of scales A good finger exercise I used many years ago was doubling the same note progressions with both hands. Basicaly you play the same notes an octave apart. Like during a workout you don't train the weaker arm seperately but train both of them equaly so that they will even out. The first exercise is to play all the notes of a scale upwards then downwards. If you have a piano with a wider range then you can increase the number of octaves you play up and down. Playing triads and chromatic scales (you play all 12 notes in an octave) is also a good way. Still you should get your hands on some sheet music with detailed fingering. After that you can make it a little difficult for yourself and play a downward scale progression with one hand and a upward with the other. For example for the first octave both hands play the notes of the C major scale upward then when you get to the last note the right hand continues to play up while the left hand goes an octave down, then the left one goes up and the right goes down, and finally both go down an octave. The same you can apply with triads. You can also try simple progressions llike C-E-G-E-C-F-A-F-C-E-G-E-C (C major scale) then repeat the same in D key and so on. Then when you get back to the root key an octave up you play the same progression downward in reversed order. You can come up with your own progressions I'm sure. I wish I could demonstrate it but I hope it helps.
     
  7. Gramofon

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    I'd say that's mainly for learning scales but it could be used as a hand exercise, why not... :)

    Something like this:
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/F374B48A8186339A (Download for better quality)

    But you'll still need some reference for the fingering (not porn). Usually the 4th does the trick. Can be done with 7ths or 10ths or whatever...
     
  8. nikon

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    thanks to all for resonse...

    Basicaly, main problem is like (example):

    * bass key (left hand): (arp) C E G C1 E G D1 E G C1 etc...
    * right hand: playing some melody

    where the left hand is very busy... melodies where left hand give only one or two note behind the right hand is ok.

    I look at some examples posted here.
     
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    SAiNT Creator Staff Member phonometrograph

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    tried many different exercises, but Carl Czerny works best for me.
     
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    SAiNT Creator Staff Member phonometrograph

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    haha, i get what you're saying! i used to had the same issue *yes*
    but the problem is not with your hands, it's in your brain and it's called multitasking *yes*

    you're trying to control both your hands, while you actually should try not to control neither of them at all.
     
  11. nikon

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    yes, that's right Saint...

    Everything is in brain, not in hands...

    It's good example of complexity a Comptine D'un autre ete

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5_xFH5wqKM

    song is very simple, but I have no that cordination in hands :)
     
  12. nikon

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    he he, I watch my daugther, it's child and there is no problem with coordination at all, but it's a child brain... she wrote acctually with both of hands with no problem :)
     
  13. nikon

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    Jordan Rudes has some nice exerc... in synth wizard video, I just watch
     
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    SAiNT Creator Staff Member phonometrograph

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    exactly because she's a child *yes* and children don't bother thinking about all the crap that grownups think - children just do. :sad:


    there's a great video-tutorial by Seymour Fink - Mastering Piano Technique, and i've just reuploaded it on AudioZ :wink:
    Really good exercises.


    P.S. You should try Cherny's exercises for both hands. it takes ridiculous amount of practice time for people like us, but the more you practice, the more you feel free.

     
  15. Gramofon

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    Don't be too harsh on yourself. I wouldn't call that an "easy" piece. At least not for someone who's been playing for two years. It's a combination of things. Both experience and practice. I do think about both hands as separate. But I also play it separately in the learning process, so by the time I play it in its entirety, it's like I'm playing two different pieces at the same time. It feels so much more unbinding and more defined. But of course it takes time. I actually have that Hanon book and a few of Czerny's. Czerny is a mixture of pieces and exercises. And he has some quite demanding pieces. Don't let the exercise layout fool you.

    Actually, that Hanon book says that if you want to do it properly you should play the WHOLE book EVERY DAY. :break:
     
  16. chopin4525

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    That's very easy: you'll get mad when you need to play 3 against 2 notes or 3 against 4 and viceversa... :rofl:
    The trick? Use metronome! You need to study right hand alone first and then left hand alone for some time with a slower tempo and then you put the two together. Avoid Czerny for now and choose more basic things. It's hard to suggest a basic method on general basis without seeing you play. Hope this little tip can help you! :mates:
     
  17. nikon

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    Yeah, the trick is: I must go to the past with time machine and finish the musical school!

    I'm not stupid, I start practicing with only left and then only right at first, then trying to join all hands together with slower tempo, then I speed up etc...

    Maybe it's ridiculous, maybe it's easy for someone who study piano... but I learn everything about music myself, with no musical school.

    The truth is, when you see me, you can judge and tell me what to do... But, you can't see me :)

    For good example I learn "Moonlight sonata" very fast (not the whole piece), but there is no big changes in lower octave, right hand do the most.

    ...I think only SAiNT understand my question.
     
  18. nikon

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    SAiNT, I will try ofcourse
     
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    Comptine is a simple song...

    Just 3-4 chords in common, simple left hand rhythm line and simple melody in right hand in first 2-3 bars, after that there is an arpegio, and then again... while left hand do the same rhythm melody through the whole song.

    Ofcourse, for me it's not simple, that's the reason why I opened this theme :) But in common, it's easy, child can play that song in 2st or 3st grade of musical school with 2 week's of practicing.
     
  20. johanna

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    I agree!!!
    But then, what should I do, when opening topic about playing- must say it, sorry, how me to play with any hand, my problem is in brain, lol!?
    btw. all useful advices here
    thanks
     
  21. SAiNT

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    hahaha, yeah, i suppose not everybody have this problem, or not everybody think about it... :mates:
     
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