96kHz Project vs 48kHz Project

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  1. Roject

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    Now I think there is something with OTT.
    Without Weiss there is difference betwen 48kHz and 96kHz.
    Without Saturn there is the difference too.
    But without OTT I don't hear any difference.
     
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    it hertz twice as much
     
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    That's my conclusion too. I took your 48kHz recording and made the following exports at 48 and 96kHz:
    • Saturn only
    • Weiss EQ only
    • Saturn, Weiss EQ, Saturn
    In all cases there was a small difference in a nil test but inaudible for me to differentiate in an A-B test.

    So, it's neither the SR, nor Saturn, nor the Weiss EQ. Conclusion: it's either OTT, or you messed something up.
     
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    Ladies and Gentlemans.
    There is serious bug in Ableton Live 10.1.3 Stock Multiband Dynamics or something is screwed up with saving or something else.
    I test it.
    I save settings of Multiband Dynamics as device.
    I deleted all processing plugins and drag and drop saved device and sound the same at 48kHz and 96kHz.
    But when I delete everything except originally saved in project Multiband Dynamics it sound different.
    This is not the end. When only original Multiband Dynamics was left I drag and drop saved one and turn of original.
    Haha moment.
    Now saved one sounds different at 96kHz and 48kHz.
    When I turn off new one and turn on original now original sounds the same at 48kHz and 96kHz.
    I test it again and now both act the same and sounds different at 48kHz and 96kHz.
    And this is not the end :crazy:

    In first test saved one sounds the same at 96kHz and 48kHz (more bassy one) but I have feelings that it sound different than multiband dynamics at 96kHz from original project.

    So from the same setting there are 3 different sounds? :suicide:
    Or maybe I'm too tired and had hallucinations :yawn::boombox::mad:


    Can someone test if the same bug is in Ableton Live 11?

    Here is the project:
    https://anonfiles.com/T7i2P66cq3/Multiband_Dynamics_Test_als

    Here is device:
    https://anonfiles.com/ZeW5O161q5/Ableton_OTT_Sucks_adv

    Here is original recording:
    https://anonfiles.com/zabaP661qe/2-Audio_0001_2021-02-25_124425_wav
     
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    depends how the DAW handles the samplerate change
    - does it run all the plugins FX upsampled, then rendered
    - or does it render master and then upsamples it?
     
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