How Do Macs and PCs Differ?

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by Diabulus in Musica, May 27, 2014.

  1. Catalyst

    Catalyst Audiosexual

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    I have no problem with that but these legions of Apple fanboys that give a whole long spiel based on no facts whatsoever begin to annoy the shit out of me. It literally causes a deep feeling of revulsion and disgust that makes me realize that I can't possibly be human.

    Macs, they're God.[​IMG] [​IMG]

    Insert vomit emoji here.
     
  2. duskwings

    duskwings Platinum Record

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    someone has to really explain me why when it cmes to comparing pc's and macs,people always come out with the story that macs r more stable,that depends on the operating system,not the hardware,and nothing,i repeat nothing,justifies the fact that the same components when they r branded apple cost the double
     
  3. Fandolin

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    The issue with stability is a holdover from the more ancient (late 90's, early 2k's) Mac vs. PC arguments. Macs were generally considered more stable for exactly the same reasons it got trounced in consumer market share--Apple tightly controlled its ecosystem. Apple designed the CPU's, carefully chose the other components, and designed their operating system to run on those components. One operating system that ran on one specially configured line of hardware. Microsoft didn't sell computers, they licensed Windows to countless OEM's, and manufacturers wrote the software that allowed Windows to communicate with their hardware. That left the people actually selling computers (HP, Dell, Gateway, etc.) to decide which components they could combine in a box and throw a warranty on it.

    When it came to writing software, there were way too many different hardware possibilities in the PC realm for programs to run problem free on every machine. This wasn't a problem for Apple and Mac OS because they created or hand-picked everything that went into the box. This is the beginning of the Mac/PC dichotomy; Mac dominated the industrial market because their systems were reliable. They also bought the software and their developers that made them the industry standard (like Logic, Final Cut, etc). The PC platform dominated the consumer market because many OEM's in the game meant more competition, meaning they could pressure manufacturers for yet lower component pricing. People could also build them themselves, and could freely develop software for the Windows platform and distribute it easily on the web. This is also why PC's suffered from viruses and malware--no one was interested in pissing off a relative handful of Mac users.

    That was once upon a time. Macs haven't gotten less stable (though the software transition from PowerPC to Intel-based systems has been messy I've heard), but PC's have grown more stable. Intel and AMD are largely responsible; they've designed smarter CPU's and chipsets that can take advantage of them. Hardware manufacturers have consolidated. The PC system has become more streamlined and reliable. That being said, Microsoft still doesn't make computers (until just recently with the Surface tablet/notebook hybrid). Apple does. Buying a Mac will get you a rigorously tested device with excellent support from Apple. That comes at a premium, and it's still important to a lot of people in the right industries (like music production). But if you have a little more know-how than the average Joe, you can save money and boost productivity by buying a Windows machine.

    ...but OEM's have a long way ago before they can match Apple's style. Their products are damn fine lookin' :wink:
     
  4. SillySausage

    SillySausage Producer

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    and damn fecking expensive :wow: just look at the latest pro?

    and a lot of the older macs, try replacing the psu when that goes "bang" :wow: :wow: :wow:
     
  5. duskwings

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    apple may build it s own computers,nonetheless the components u find in them are the same that u find in a windows based pc,because apple doesn t build the components,and often those computers are close to be crap,like their old graphic cards,just saying
     
  6. Ricren

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    In our case we use OSX or Windows depending on the App. that we run. Simple like that.

    Example: Digital Performer today (sept14) runs better on OSX. In windows still have a few problems. It's a fact. So for sequencing I use OSX. My partners in the studio like Cubase so they use Windows for music production because they tried the app on both environments and they think they prefer how it behaves in Win.

    For mixing we use Pro Tools and this is the only exception, because we think this app. runs almost the same in both OS's. So If we initiate the production in DP OSX, we end up mixing in ProTools OSX and if we initiate in Cubase we mix in PT win.

    Another commentary would be that once inside PT, the OS in a properly configured machine is not that much relevant. However,in the past it used to be with Windows XP that in my opinion was awful if you compare it with the MacOS of that age. At least for AV media production.

    Just my opinion.
     
  7. Levitate

    Levitate Producer

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    Or do you prefer?
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  8. Andrew

    Andrew AudioSEX Maestro

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    This is probably the best video on the subject of PC vs. MAC wars:


    It starts at 0:13
     
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