SH2 Plug Out - by Roland (SoftSynth)

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  1. sideshowbob

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    For specs visit:
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    http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/1340/448/specs/
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  3. mrpsanter

    mrpsanter Audiosexual

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    Not sure to understand:

    Do you need some Roland hardware in order to use this or is it possible to use it as a VSTi in a DAW??
     
  4. Feridan

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    It runs as an ordinary AU or VST, but you can also use it inside the Roland Aira System-1 hardware synth independent of a computer. That's why they came up with the term plug-out.

    I'm excited about Roland finally entering the software market. If you look at the office in the promo video, they have lots of vintage Roland gear there. So perhaps we'll see more, like the Juno, the Jupiter, etc.
     
  5. KingSchlongXVII

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    According to the spec on the site it can be used as a VST/AU, but you need System 1 hardware if you want to seamlessly control/edit without touching the GUI. So I guess it works in most DAW's, but there's no MIDI CC learn possible for other controllers? Not sure, but it seems that way though. It's also called "Plug Out" as opposed to "Plug-in", which is making something of a clear statement right there.

    p.s. Feridan posted exactly a few seconds before I did, so apologies for any repeated info. Likewise I'm excited by the prospect of more Roland hardware like Jupiters/Junos.
     
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    mild pump milk Russian Milk Drunkard

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    guys! if I understand you all - Analog sound can be reproduced in VST with 100% accuracy???????? So, therefore "analog synth = digital synth" because of Roland's Replica new technologies? Digitally True-analog in-the-box???? Analog Plugin? Not modelled, not emulated, but COPIED from analog to computer?????????????????????????
    If yes, soon computers will f/*k all analog monsters?
    :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:
     
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    you dont need.
    but why in the hell they made the SH-101 monophonic only? why not add a switch to use it polyphonic too? :snuffy:
     
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    mild pump milk Russian Milk Drunkard

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    VSTi 3.6

    hmm..
     
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    Yeah, only VST3, no VST2 *no*

    Uh? :wow: :unsure:
     
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    I mean, these Roland's Replicas sound as same as their analog old synths???? or it's like "another modeled synths"???
    or? :rofl:
     
  11. ArticStorm

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    its a replica, sure it sounds not 1000% the same, but its quite close when you compare it on the spectral level. the knobs feel a bit strange in the VST version.
     
  12. Feridan

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    The specs for the SH-2 demand OS X 10.8.5+ and compatibility with VST 3.6 or AU V2, 64-bit only

    For Windows: Windows 7 SP1 / Windows 8/8.1, VST 3.6 compatibility is expected, 32-bit and 64-bit VSTi 3.6

    The plug-in does not work with Windows RT, Windows Phone, and it won't work on virtual machines such as Hyper V, Virtual PC, or Boot Camp.


    About compatibility issues with the previous SH 101 plugin Roland rep Brendon Ryan then stated (July 30, 2014) to Create Digital Music blog, that …
    http://createdigitalmusic.com/2014/07/rolands-plug-sh-101-incompatible-hosts-heres-works/

    So perhaps they will eventually support VST 2.4 but then VST 2 is history so it's a big maybe :unsure:
     
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    gonna be getting the system-1 on tuesday, hoping the sh-2 comes as a free addon but have no idea yet as i cant find a pricetag or anything about obtaining it, quite strange
     
  14. Feridan

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    Price estimate at sonic state is 75 $ for System-1 owners, and as plug-in alone 110 $
    http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2014/09/18/roland-system-1-sh-2-plug-out-announced/

    release date is sep. 25
     
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    Yes, can't find anything around about pricing and release date :dunno:
    Yeah Artic, I meant VST2.4 :wink:
     
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    They've been doing vintage plugins since 2003 JP8, 303, D-50 etc search out Roland VariOS both hardware and Software plugins the hardware was to save CPU.

    Knowing Roland they will make it so hardware will be needed or some limitation.
     
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    I'm afraid you're right: There should be some limitations of some kind otherwise it would be too easy.
    Can you imagine: You would be able to have the Roland sound without spending a buck?
     
  18. Dalmation

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    I think this 'plug-out' system runs entirely inside the SYSTEM-1hardware only.

    ie. the processing / DSP is all inside the SYSTEM-1 keyboard. The plug-out software (SH-101, SH-2... ) module is downloaded into the SYSTEM-1 keyboard hardware to run.
    What you see on the PC screen is only the GUI to remote control the software inside the SYSTEM-1 keyboard.

    So --- you do need the SYSTEM-1 keyboard hardware to use any of Rolands' SH-101 or SH-2 emulations. If they offered them as VST(x) only, then they would'nt sell as many SYSTEM-1's right... Marketing !!
     
  19. copylefter

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    Nope. It runs on computer, no hardware needed.
    Limitation of some kind there are: these plugs are copy protected, online activation only. Easily gone though.
    Looking forward to try the SH-1, I tried the SH101 and it sounds pretty good :wink:
     
  20. gurujon

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    I just wish I knew how to switch off those terrible green blinking lights on my System-1!!!
    To switch them off is in "hidden mode" or something. These blinking lights are driving me crazy.
    Its like you go into an office where people are trying to work, but there strobes and disco-lights
    flashing all over the place.
    Good thinking Roland!
    Oh, and to skip this part in the owners manual is just brilliant! Now we have something to talk about.

    Btw, the System-1 sounds nice, punchy and clean. But imho it doesnt sound like a real SH-101, just similar.
    Analog is still better and more "alive". Well, soemtimes digital synths are more suitable,
    it depends what youre doing.
     
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    Great News. I really love this synth.

    I have a broken SH-09 I used extensively in the past. Something electrical prevent it from turning on, but anyway, not interested in repairing it for now.
    Even though it had only one OSC, it sounded PHAT. The filter was amazing and the envelope follower incredible. Let's see if they can recreate those.

    We'll see in the demo soon.
     
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